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    Quote Originally Posted by Veritas-Ancora View Post
    I've been around for over 10 years in this game and it's never been this dead. I'm actually worried.
    I see people rejecting the current state of the game a good thing personally. High play rates would just enforce them the be complaisant and stagnate which is the whole reason why the game is in it's current state, theirs been no innovation for years, the only "innovation" would be downgrading job design

    If they aren't willing to listen to feedback, we shouldn't give this game the time of day until it's a game worth caring about again.

    This is coming from someone who adored and loved this game for so long, but in fact I've been actually having fun not being tied down to ff14 being my primary game anymore
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    Quote Originally Posted by Rithy255 View Post
    I see people rejecting the current state of the game a good thing personally. High play rates would just enforce them the be complaisant and stagnate which is the whole reason why the game is in it's current state, theirs been no innovation for years, the only "innovation" would be downgrading job design
    I'm almost fully moved back to Vana'diel these days. I still can't believe how a nearly 25 year old mmo, made by the same company and practically in maintenance mode with a handful of devs still working on it, is the better experience... They are even in the process of going back and redesigning the old lvl 75 content to be more in line with the current power levels and streamlining some of the more rediculous grinds. It's amazing what can be done when you have leadership and teams that not only play their own game, but listen to their community and really care about the game, it's world and it's lore. Which is likely why the population is currently growing at a quite healthy rate.
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    Things would be a lot better going forward if we had a foray+relic in .1 patches without any excuses or delays. Casual players need goals too, not just hardcore raiders for half the expansion.
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  4. #324
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    Quote Originally Posted by Raim View Post
    Things would be a lot better going forward if we had a foray+relic in .1 patches without any excuses or delays. Casual players need goals too, not just hardcore raiders for half the expansion.
    Doubt it will do that much in terms of keeping player interest, might help a little bit but I really don't see 7.25 (or future patches) as this big ff14 saviour.
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    Calling it an MMO is misleading anyway. There’s no open world, no interaction that isn’t forced, no cooperative play (‘roles’, strengths or specific duties) or real synergies within a group, it’s made ‘group content’ purely to add artificial difficulty and to stretch the content, and there’s no need to find a specific crafter because everybody can learn all the crafting jobs themselves.

    It’s a Japanese fast food, theme park console game with multiplayer support.

    If this is an MMO, then games like Diablo II are as well.
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    Last edited by Kandraxx; 04-12-2025 at 04:46 AM.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Raim View Post
    Things would be a lot better going forward if we had a foray+relic in .1 patches without any excuses or delays. Casual players need goals too, not just hardcore raiders for half the expansion.
    As someone who has made multiples of all the relics so far, they've stalled for so long, let my DT induced apathy grow so much and pushed me to play so many other games that I am not even looking forward to it and not even sure if I want to bother with it. I didn't even unlock the new raid teir because I just don't care at this point. I'm just coasting until 8.0 when I will make the decision to stay or go, doing the occasional hunt train if I am bored enough, since literally everything feels so incredibly pointless.

    Dawnfail has got me down worse than 1.0 did. At least back then we had hope of a better tomorrow.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Kandraxx View Post
    Calling it an MMO is misleading anyway
    I'll make sure to tell that to the hundreds of people I see roleplaying, advertising for raid groups, and going after hunts in a persistent world.
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    Quote Originally Posted by hydralus View Post
    hundreds
    what an EPIC comeback white knighting for a MASSIVELY multiplayer online game.

    bravo! bravo! the Final Fantasy XIV (Copyright 2025) movement needs players like YOU to mount MORE epic comebacks! You taught those doomers a lesson today! Don't mess with us FF14 fans, or else...
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    Quote Originally Posted by JohnConstantine View Post
    what an EPIC comeback white knighting for a MASSIVELY multiplayer online game.

    bravo! bravo! the Final Fantasy XIV (Copyright 2025) movement needs players like YOU to mount MORE epic comebacks! You taught those doomers a lesson today! Don't mess with us FF14 fans, or else...
    Unlike some people I don't have stock options in the SquareEnix company so I honestly don't care if the game servers shut down. It's you guys who have this weird almost cult-like fascination with how well/unwell the game is doing. I'm merely a consumer, and if this game shuts down I will go play another. However, I am enjoying this game, so I will continue to play it. The actions of people who seemingly despise the game yet will continue to pay a subscription in order to tell people how awful it is will continue to amuse me.

    I merely pointed out that there are plenty of things that make this an MMO and not a co-op game like Diablo II. If you feel that's white knighting you need to calm down a little.
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    Quote Originally Posted by MicahZerrshia View Post
    Wait that 13% was taken from steam? This whole time the defenders have been saying Steam numbers being so low are meaningless because most of the population doesn't use steam. But now that its an increase instead of a decrease its suddenly relivant? Well well, look at how convenient that is.
    Yeah, I said that with a good bit of intended "look how the turn tables" energy for a reason. Remember, if it says +, the numbers are valid and if it says -, the numbers aren't real and they can't hurt you and there's no proof and FFXIV is doing fine.

    Quote Originally Posted by hydralus View Post
    I merely pointed out that there are plenty of things that make this an MMO and not a co-op game like Diablo II. If you feel that's white knighting you need to calm down a little.
    Discord is an MMO by your logic but alright keep it up
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