Wife unable to do alliance raid roulette once she hit 60.

[Supersnow845]

Not following. Why would anyone want to queue for any AR more than once, outside of glam and rewards?

Well 1) you have to get it to pop the first time
2) it doesn’t really matter why someone wants to queue a second time, the roulette is there to facilitate direct queuers queue times. So you shouldn’t be able to make it harder for these people to queue by not unlocking the other raids

[Mawlzy]

Well 1) you have to get it to pop the first time
2) it doesn’t really matter why someone wants to queue a second time, the roulette is there to facilitate direct queuers queue times. So you shouldn’t be able to make it harder for these people to queue by not unlocking the other raids

If SE designed interesting PvE the "problem" would solve itself.

That said, I do think there's an argument for putting CT into the MSQ roulette.

[Supersnow845]

If SE designed interesting PvE the "problem" would solve itself.

That said, I do think there's an argument for putting CT into the MSQ roulette.

That still doesn’t really mean anything. If you want to queue for the alliance (or any roulette) you should have everything accessible. Roulettes shouldn’t be pick and choose what content you want in them even if you personally think some of the options are bad

[Mawlzy]

That still doesn’t really mean anything. If you want to queue for the alliance (or any roulette) you should have everything accessible. Roulettes shouldn’t be pick and choose what content you want in them even if you personally think some of the options are bad

Optional content is optional. SE isn't going to introduce some weird hybrid scheme whereby you are compelled to unlock optional content to run content you've already unlocked. I think even they are aware we're forced to do too much dull PvE already and are not likely to drive even more people from the game by compelling them to do more.

[Supersnow845]

Optional content is optional. SE isn't going to introduce some weird hybrid scheme whereby you are compelled to unlock optional content to run content you've already unlocked. I think even they are aware we're forced to do too much dull PvE already and are not likely to drive even more people from the game by compelling them to do more.

A roulette isn’t required content and we already have a roulette that has optional and required content in it that you need to unlock all content on it before you unlock the roulette which is the level cap roulette. I don’t know why we should be making exceptions for the alliance roulette because it has CT in it

If you are running a roulette you a consenting to get anything for the benefit of a direct queuer. You shouldn’t be able to tailor the roulette to that direct direct queuers detriment

[Mawlzy]

A roulette isn’t required content and we already have a roulette that has optional and required content in it that you need to unlock all content on it before you unlock the roulette which is the level cap roulette. I don’t know why we should be making exceptions for the alliance roulette because it has CT in it

If you are running a roulette you a consenting to get anything for the benefit of a direct queuer. You shouldn’t be able to tailor the roulette to that direct direct queuers detriment

Still not really following. The AR series is unlocked in sequence. If someone chooses to stop unlocking it, I don't see how that is having a negative impact on anyone else.

Is that really how the level cap roulette works? Never done it.

[Supersnow845]

Still not really following. The AR series is unlocked in sequence. If someone chooses to stop unlocking it, I don't see how that is having a negative impact on anyone else.

Is that really how the level cap roulette works? Never done it.

The roulettes are designed to get people into what is being queued directly for. If you don’t have what is being queued for unlocked then you can’t help that person. That would be bad enough as it is but then on top of that the roulettes are also designed to minimise the average wait time so they flow properly.

So if person A is queuing for ivalice and then you queue for the roulette with only CT unlocked then the roulette is still trying to pop ivalice for this person but now also has to contend with you needing CT to pop in a somewhat timely manner because that’s how roulette systems work. So after a while of not getting enough people for ivalice the roulette may choose to minimise the average queue time and pop CT for you instead since you can’t do ivalice which deprives person A from having enough people to pop ivalice. This is why the higher level alliance raids take so long

So you aren’t just useless you are actively hurting them and warping the roulette’s purpose

I beg to differ, given the number of times I was kicked from Mhach and Ivalice before I was able to finish them all because other people did in fact care a great deal about me being bad and dying too many times (even when I was literally the only cutscene watcher and obviously new), meaning I was actively making runs WORSE than if I had never shown up, and now I don't contribute to the roulette popping at all because I don't want to deal with Mhach or Ivalice again, or how my experience with them has ensured I never touch alliance raids from Shadowbringers onward.
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The point is from a utilitarian perspective in terms of the utility of the roulettes even if you got kicked (which being kicked many times as a new person on an alliance roulette sounds odd) the roulette is still more useful than if it never popped those duties because there is very likely at least 2-3 others who were queueing for those duties that needed them popped

So now since you won’t unlock nier, myths or echos you queueing into the alliance roulette is warping it for those who want them to pop, because from a utility perspective it’s more useful for the average player for those duties to pop and kick you then it is for the duties to never pop. I don’t mean that in a harsh way, it’s just how the roulettes are designed to work

[PyurBlue]

Roulettes shouldn’t be pick and choose what content you want

This being a game I have to disagree. If you can pick and choose while still helping queue times, that is only a good thing. Roulettes are already pick and choose to degree because we have multiple roulettes. SE could have made a mentor style roulette and given it to everyone but they didn't. The reasoning behind this is something we can only guess at but it makes sense to me if part of it was to give players some degree of control. Even if that wasn't the case at all, it remains part of the result. If you only want to be eligible for dungeons you can queue for the dungeon roulettes. So why not take that one step further provide some choice within categories of content?

If people are concerned about this creating an imbalance in queue times, we already saw that this wasn't case from the roulette data posted early. CT is a special case because it's required content. Separating it from the other alliance raids in roulette would be perfectly reasonable and address the issues that people have with queueing. Forcing unlocks of other raids might help but it also comes with downsides, so I wouldn't promote it as the best solution.