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    Quote Originally Posted by Hallarem View Post
    Aside from naming conventions among Imperial Citizen Miqo'te of "Potitus" as their last name, which oddly enough means "Captured, obtained, controlled" in latin. And the Field Record of Dyunbu Pyr Potitus an Imperial Miqo'te doesn't really give a vibe of it being a forced name either. "See the path she walked which led to her adopting the surname Potitus, common among Miqo'te with imperial citizenship".
    Considering what Potitus means, Rhitatyn's surname Arvina being "fat" in Latin, and who the Garleans were as people, I don't think it's exactly voluntary that the Miqo'te came up with on their own. It's probably something they have to take if they get citizenship, which is something probably more difficult for them due to being races likely prejudiced against if those names are anything to go by. It's probably also a mark of having abandoned their original culture for the Garleans'.


    OP was theorizing that Eorzea's aether could be behind Miqo'te's gender distribution, but yeah, with the G tribe living in Ilsabard but having the same customs as Eorzean Miqo'te, that sort of sinks that theory. A few questions I do have are that the "26 tribes" thing was supposed to be the Miqo'te tribes who went back to Eorzea during the 5th Umbral Calamity, but why are there G tribe members in Ilsabard who claim heritage going back to the Third Astral Era and never having left? And how does that explain G tribe NPCs who are in Eorzea? And what is the whole deal with the Moon Keepers - where did they come from originally?

    Ignore the wiki on this one, I already had that discussion with someone else recently where the wiki makes up stuff about the Miqo'te again.
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    I've often wondered about the Keepers, were they always like that with their traits or are their differences a result of being under the canopy of the Black Shroud. Perhaps the Ilsabard Miqo'te were the Seekers and the Meracydian Miqo'te are the Keepers? We just don't know as of yet, but I'd like to find out one day - Keeper lore especially is extreme sparse compared to the Seekers currently.
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    Quote Originally Posted by MikkoAkure View Post
    A few questions I do have are that the "26 tribes" thing was supposed to be the Miqo'te tribes who went back to Eorzea during the 5th Umbral Calamity, but why are there G tribe members in Ilsabard who claim heritage going back to the Third Astral Era and never having left? And how does that explain G tribe NPCs who are in Eorzea? And what is the whole deal with the Moon Keepers - where did they come from originally?
    I noticed the same oddity when I was compiling my list of info on the Seeker tribes.

    My best attempt at inventing a scenario to explain both facts being true – that the 26 tribes only took their Eorzean letter-prefixes upon arriving there but the G tribe got a letter despite staying behind:

    1. Seeker tribal customs are already more or less in place by the time of the fall of Allag.

    2. Migration happens; a 27th "Corvos tribe" stays behind.

    3. A tia from the Eorzean G tribe goes adventuring and ends up claiming the Corvos tribe; since they have no letter he declares this to now be part of the G tribe. Alternately the whole tribe struggles to find a place in Eorzea and end up turning back and merging with the Corvos tribe.


    Keepers could potentially be a completely separate initial migration from where the Miqo'te originally came from, or perhaps they're part of the same group that migrated to Eorzea the first time before the Allagans captured part of the population and took them to Ilsabard. (No canon support for any of this, though.)


    Another thing that occurs to me is, perhaps the Allagans could have caused the gender imbalance – but not in the genetic-engineering way people like to propose. If – hypothetically – they were capturing a lot of the population and for whatever reason placed higher value on the men, or were assigning them more dangerous tasks or isolated tasks (army conscripts for example) then you end up with an artificial imbalance of genders and their culture reinforces that. (In this scenario perhaps the culture came about wholly in response to the imbalance, or perhaps the nunh was more of a chieftain role originally and the harem part only came about once there was an absence of other men per tribe. Likewise it could have been what drove Keeper men to stay away from their communities. Have it last long enough and maybe they start to forget what they did before.)


    But this is all very hypothetical and not supported by canon lore.
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