Add New CC for all Tanks + Rework short Mets and Passive restoration

[PyurBlue]

On CC, we have Low Blow for stun. Status baked into damage combos and gap-closers gives less control and kind of negates the entire thing. Holy stun is great, but because Holy is WHM's main AoE DPS, the stun is just there. If you want to use the stun strategically you don't have many options other than standing around and doing nothing until the moment when you want to use it, and even more so if enemies gain resistance to effects. If instead we had dedicated CC abilities, that frees them up for interesting use.

[YovelaLindswood]

On CC, we have Low Blow for stun. Status baked into damage combos and gap-closers gives less control and kind of negates the entire thing. Holy stun is great, but because Holy is WHM's main AoE DPS, the stun is just there. If you want to use the stun strategically you don't have many options other than standing around and doing nothing until the moment when you want to use it, and even more so if enemies gain resistance to effects. If instead we had dedicated CC abilities, that frees them up for interesting use.

Holy stun is garbage because because it blows through enemy stun resist so if an enemy does an aoe later in the pull I cant target stun it so the melees can keep uptime. Targeted cc is just kinda better imo.

I really like the idea of cc being attached to a gap closer too. You could even make it more class specific. Like drk is an antimage tank so giving it an interrupt on its gap closer would be thematically cool.

[Alice_Rivers]

Holy stun is garbage because because it blows through enemy stun resist so if an enemy does an aoe later in the pull I cant target stun it so the melees can keep uptime. Targeted cc is just kinda better imo.

Yeah, I would love to see Holy's stun moved to it's own button, give me an actual tactical aoe stun.

[YovelaLindswood]

Yeah, I would love to see Holy's stun moved to it's own button, give me an actual tactical aoe stun.

OMG yes. Give whm their own tactical stun. Give them some class identity please. XD Also SE while you're at it treat healers like the recomended cd reduction of rampart. Debloat the healers heal toolkits with smaller lower cd toolkits and remove the redundant actions.

[Carighan]

OMG yes. Give whm their own tactical stun. Give them some class identity please.

Eh, you realize you're commenting on something about how WHM is unique compared to the other healers, and that person wants that uniqueness reduced. Yes?

[Alice_Rivers]

Eh, you realize you're commenting on something about how WHM is unique compared to the other healers, and that person wants that uniqueness reduced. Yes?

How does moving WHM's 8y GCD stun from Holy into it's own button (and maybe making it an oGCD in the same vein as ACN's Energy Drain) exclusive to WHM make WHM less unique?

[Carighan]

How does moving WHM's 8y GCD stun from Holy into it's own button (and maybe making it an oGCD in the same vein as ACN's Energy Drain) exclusive to WHM make WHM less unique?

Eh... I'm unsure how to reply to this, I'll admit. This is like if someone asked me "How is sunlight bright?" or "Why is water wet?". I bet it can be answered, but I struggle to think how to do it, personally. You're essentially asking "Why would making something generic instead of unique make it less unique?", you know?

[YovelaLindswood]

Eh, you realize you're commenting on something about how WHM is unique compared to the other healers, and that person wants that uniqueness reduced. Yes?

Problem is the way it is unique is actively counter to game design. Its current design actively griefs all tanks. If its an ogcd you could actively use your stun for either an emergency mit if your tanks low or if multiple enemies are doing aoes you can interrupt them easily. It would keep its identity while giving you more agency as a player. As it currently exists its just nothing but annoying for all tanks that actively use stun for melee uptime.

[PyurBlue]

Holy stun is garbage because because it blows through enemy stun resist so if an enemy does an aoe later in the pull I cant target stun it so the melees can keep uptime. Targeted cc is just kinda better imo.

That's what I'm saying. The stun is very powerful, but because it's attached to damage it gets used immediately instead of strategically. If stun and damage were separated you could use stun in more interesting ways.

Yeah, I would love to see Holy's stun moved to it's own button, give me an actual tactical aoe stun.

Glare IV is the best thing WHM has ever recieved. I don't know if it was on purpose or accidental, but it allows WHM to control stun using while using AoE since you can hold Holy. If only it wasn't locked away for 2 minutes at a time.