Black mage changes are probably my breaking point with this game

[PercibelTheren]

I don't play BLM myself (I dabbled in Endwalker and found it a lot of fun, but my brain is way too smooth) but I don't get these changes. Isn't figuring out how to optimize it in fast fights with a lot of movement the whole point of skill expression for Black Mage? Not to mention, you have a LOT of instant casts, you have better mobility than half the other casters. And honestly, I wouldn't mind tailoring our static's raid strats around BLM. We already default to melee uptime, why not also try for BLM uptime? Why not let BLM pretend to be a melee? Would it be optimal? Hell no. Would it be viable? Probably!

[HikariKurosawa]

I don't play BLM myself (I dabbled in Endwalker and found it a lot of fun, but my brain is way too smooth) but I don't get these changes. Isn't figuring out how to optimize it in fast fights with a lot of movement the whole point of skill expression for Black Mage? Not to mention, you have a LOT of instant casts, you have better mobility than half the other casters. And honestly, I wouldn't mind tailoring our static's raid strats around BLM. We already default to melee uptime, why not also try for BLM uptime? Why not let BLM pretend to be a melee? Would it be optimal? Hell no. Would it be viable? Probably!

You still have to do all of this, the only difference is the level of punishment. People who play the job proficiently will have better uptime and more dps throughput, peopl who don't will just not fall out of enochian. That's all there is to the changes. Everything else plays the same aside from faster casting.

The optimization of the job is still there, and it is still a complex job with a lot to juggle. It's just less punishing. People are blowing the changes way out of proportion because they want to feel special for playing BLM. MMO player ego is one of the funniest most ironic things in the gaming industry.

[Rithy255]

You still have to do all of this, the only difference is the level of punishment. People who play the job proficiently will have better uptime and more dps throughput, peopl who don't will just not fall out of enochian. That's all there is to the changes. Everything else plays the same aside from faster casting.

The optimization of the job is still there, and it is still a complex job with a lot to juggle. It's just less punishing. People are blowing the changes way out of proportion because they want to feel special for playing BLM. MMO player ego is one of the funniest most ironic things in the gaming industry.

What are you exactly "optimizing" on new black mage? what exactly is "complex" about the job anymore, what do you have to juggle? do you actually mean anything you say?

[HikariKurosawa]

What are you exactly "optimizing" on new black mage? what exactly is "complex" about the job anymore, what do you have to juggle? do you actually mean anything you say?

Here, watch this video made by someone who is actually dedicated to the job. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Aq33x00i7B8

There is still tons of optimization and non-standard exists still. Watching that video, for me it's still a very complicated job with a lot of nuance. Reddit told you to be upset about the changes and that it was doomsday for BLM, but maybe learn to think for yourself and not throw a fit before exploring what the changes actually do for the job.

I doubt you can think for yourself though, so that's a big ask. There is a reason why I have to manually get the forums to show me every post you make.

[Rithy255]

Here, watch this video made by someone who is actually dedicated to the job. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Aq33x00i7B8

There is still tons of optimization and non-standard exists still. Watching that video, for me it's still a very complicated job with a lot of nuance. Reddit told you to be upset about the changes and that it was doomsday for BLM, but maybe learn to think for yourself and not throw a fit before exploring what the changes actually do for the job.

I doubt you can think for yourself though, so that's a big ask. There is a reason why I have to manually get the forums to show me every post you make.

So theirs a wacky opener? cool I guess, something to remember then never have to really change on the fly. Theirs slight opener Optimization, if this is complicated with a lot of nuance to you, then I dread to know what's a normal standard easy job.

What I personally enjoyed about black mage wasn't anything to do with opener's or actual rotation it was Movement Optimization, things like triple cast being a damage gain but also a mobility tool had some interesting conflicts, it also made learning fights on black mage a lot different to any other job, I loved the longer cast times because it actually felt like I was casting powerful spells instead of small fire spells, which itself played into fights well because black mage was all about using your mobility tools at the right time.

I don't care that much that astral fire timer is gone, I mean I'd prefer to have it but I would still enjoy the job, You don't exactly know my reasons for liking black mage over then assuming reddit made me want to cry about it on the forums or something.

Though I can think for myself I don't always just agree with standard forum or reddit opinions, I just don't tend to be condescending about it I don't see any reason to look down on different opinions. Maybe just maybe one day you will understand people like different aspects about the game and it's naive to act like some sort of gospel for the silent majority.

[HikariKurosawa]

So theirs a wacky opener? cool I guess, something to remember then never have to really change on the fly. Theirs slight opener Optimization, if this is complicated with a lot of nuance to you, then I dread to know what's a normal standard easy job.

What I personally enjoyed about black mage wasn't anything to do with opener's or actual rotation it was Movement Optimization, things like triple cast being a damage gain but also a mobility tool had some interesting conflicts, it also made learning fights on black mage a lot different to any other job, I loved the longer cast times because it actually felt like I was casting powerful spells instead of small fire spells, which itself played into fights well because black mage was all about using your mobility tools at the right time.

I don't care that much that astral fire timer is gone, I mean I'd prefer to have it but I would still enjoy the job, You don't exactly know my reasons for liking black mage over then assuming reddit made me want to cry about it on the forums or something.

Though I can think for myself I don't always just agree with standard forum or reddit opinions, I just don't tend to be condescending about it I don't see any reason to look down on different opinions. Maybe just maybe one day you will understand people like different aspects about the game and it's naive to act like some sort of gospel for the silent majority.

So what you liked about BLM was a whacky gimmick?

[Rithy255]

So what you liked about BLM was a whacky gimmick?

If you consider movement optimization a "wacky gimmick" then yes.

Couldn't come up with a better response then that just shows your not actually serious about anything you say.