Ban premade parties in Frontline please

[gidsonBrand]

There is no pretending it's not a problem - it's the truth that being able to form a party is a benefit to Frontline.

Yeah, it gives you an advantage. Guarantees that 3 of your teammates are good, or at the very least you can communicate.

But come on. Removing waymarks and chat? Really? Are you that salty over four people with friends and social skills beating you in a video game?

[Exmo]

There is no pretending it's not a problem - it's the truth that being able to form a party is a benefit to Frontline.

Yeah, it gives you an advantage. Guarantees that 3 of your teammates are good, or at the very least you can communicate.

But come on. Removing waymarks and chat? Really? Are you that salty over four people with friends and social skills beating you in a video game?

Nobody here has a problem with people having friends or social skills. We have a problem with the game mode being unfair, frustrating and/or boring because of how people like you choose to act. You posted in anther thread how you loved grouping up with a DRK, dnc and two drgs and coordinating LBs to let the four of you kill 10 opponents. So, you're just another premader who only plays Frontline if you have a huge advantage over other players and is resistant to anything that could challenge you. I don't mind people being selfish like that, it's somewhat natural. But at least have the decency to not regurgitate accusations like your last paragraph here. It diminishes your integrity.

[Atreus]

So, you're just another premader who only plays Frontline if you have a huge advantage over other players and is resistant to anything that could challenge you.

You're literally make this shit up about people, fucking stop lmao. You're talking to someone who constantly supports and advocates for the competitive community. The fuck makes you think he, and everyone else in these groups, is "resistant to being challenged".

Get real.

[gidsonBrand]

You're literally make this shit up about people, fucking stop lmao. You're talking to someone who constantly supports and advocates for the competitive community. The fuck makes you think he, and everyone else in these groups, is "resistant to being challenged".

Get real.

Bumping you up to 1st seed for this, boo

Y'all coming out to the tournament next week? We've got Draco and Welly on commentary

[Atreus]

Bumping you up to 1st seed for this, boo

Y'all coming out to the tournament next week? We've got Draco and Welly on commentary

Next time brotha. Overwhelmed with CCCC and raid prep right now.

[Divinemights]

Nobody here has a problem with people having friends or social skills. We have a problem with the game mode being unfair, frustrating and/or boring because of how people like you choose to act. You posted in anther thread how you loved grouping up with a DRK, dnc and two drgs and coordinating LBs to let the four of you kill 10 opponents. So, you're just another premader who only plays Frontline if you have a huge advantage over other players and is resistant to anything that could challenge you. I don't mind people being selfish like that, it's somewhat natural. But at least have the decency to not regurgitate accusations like your last paragraph here. It diminishes your integrity.

You certainly over exaggerate on the premade and acting like it is a world breaking issue for everyone in FF14 while it is not
For Korean, Chinese, and Japanese datacenter the premade is irreverent because they heavily play on framework of a "Commander"
Their randoms are highly participated and showing higher obedience to Commander style of Frontline gameplay
There maybe more European players willing to band together on Light, but it doesn't mean it is the same for every other datacenter
Light is only one of the datacenter and do not represent entire FF14 Frontline
You feel hurt because of premade also doesn't mean everyone else holds same feeling
You are not the ONLY Longewolf on FF14 Frontline, there are many other wolves around

[gidsonBrand]

Nobody here has a problem with people having friends or social skills. We have a problem with the game mode being unfair, frustrating and/or boring because of how people like you choose to act. You posted in anther thread how you loved grouping up with a DRK, dnc and two drgs and coordinating LBs to let the four of you kill 10 opponents. So, you're just another premader who only plays Frontline if you have a huge advantage over other players and is resistant to anything that could challenge you. I don't mind people being selfish like that, it's somewhat natural. But at least have the decency to not regurgitate accusations like your last paragraph here. It diminishes your integrity.

In absolutely WHAT universe is a 4v10 a huge advantage for us??? Hello???

Are you also mad that the 300 Spartans took on the Persian army???

[Mawlzy]

In absolutely WHAT universe is a 4v10 a huge advantage for us??? Hello???

Are you also mad that the 300 Spartans took on the Persian army???

Shouldn't a coordinated light party crush ten randos in most scenarios?

Again, a serious problem with the game mode.

Re: Sparta vs Persia, there are many in France still struggling with Agincourt. But that was a rather different situation to Frontline. More mud, for example.

[gidsonBrand]

Shouldn't a coordinated light party crush ten randos in most scenarios?

Again, a serious problem with the game mode.

Re: Sparta vs Persia, there are many in France still struggling with Agincourt. But that was a rather different situation to Frontline. More mud, for example.

No, the problem is not that we were coordinated, but that the randoms were uncoordinated and easy to bait.

Any good player could see what we were doing, and would know not to clump up. Instead because most people on NA play the game like it's toddler soccer, they dog pile the first thing they see and get hit with 60k in AOE burst.

This is not a problem. This is skill and awareness winning over numbers. If every fight was decided by who has more players, that would be boring.

[Mawlzy]

No, the problem is not that we were coordinated, but that the randoms were uncoordinated and easy to bait.

Any good player could see what we were doing, and would know not to clump up. Instead because most people on NA play the game like it's toddler soccer, they dog pile the first thing they see and get hit with 60k in AOE burst.

This is not a problem. This is skill and awareness winning over numbers. If every fight was decided by who has more players, that would be boring.

Look, I'm certainly not blaming you and your friends for using your undoubted skill to dominate a larger group of randos. But THE problem is that people of your skill, force multiplied by coordinating, wipe out randos. That isn't your fault, but the net result when such a premade with a shotcaller is on the field is boring matches. You may get a buzz out of the pffft-pffft-pffft, but even for skilled (solo) players it creates crappy matches.

And THE solution is to stop placing players of massive skill disparities (or those that avoid PvP like it causes herpes) on the same field.

I'd add that I think 5-10% of NA players should be banned from FL for persistent lethargic play.