Dawntrail character graphics update - opinions, requests and discussion megathread

[noumen0nn]

They're just never going to touch the mouths, are they?

I cannot believe this gif I made in September is still relevant. The philtrum depth has since been corrected, but the lip/lip gloss shape disparity is still exactly the same. Why??

[Gaddes]

I cannot believe this gif I made in September is still relevant. The philtrum depth has since been corrected, but the lip/lip gloss shape disparity is still exactly the same. Why??

Your gif perfectly illustrates my frustration, here's my lips:



like really look: they're not even the same lips at all! For some people, at least some portion of your lips were similar to how they were before, but maybe just a little less curvy or subdued.
But this entire mouth/lip shape was completely changed. And now there is no mouth type that comes close to looking like the more large plush lips from before. Every mouth type for my Elezen is either very vertically thin lips or small ones, and all tapered at the corners the same way.
Unlike what Yoshi-P claimed, there was clearly no effort made to retain the original style and they threw it out completely to homogenize with the other races' mouth shapes.

[noumen0nn]

Your gif perfectly illustrates my frustration, here's my lips:



like really look: they're not even the same lips at all! For some people, at least some portion of your lips were similar to how they were before, but maybe just a little less curvy or subdued.
But this entire mouth/lip shape was completely changed. And now there is no mouth type that comes close to looking like the more large plush lips from before. Every mouth type for my Elezen is either very vertically thin lips or small ones, and all tapered at the corners the same way.
Unlike what Yoshi-P claimed, there was clearly no effort made to retain the original style and they threw it out completely to homogenize with the other races' mouth shapes.

Yours are even worse than mine tbh. The literal only reason I could think of for them to make a change like this is if they somehow think that the old lip shapes would look wrong somehow when rendered in more realistic detail?

But I don't want realism, I want faithfulness to the original look, which was stylized. As others were saying before, they did a stellar job with the latest round of NPC faces; the differences if any are so minor you can barely tell. Where is that level of care with our characters?