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    Just cleared the normal mode, yeah i had some wipes on the third boss until everyone understood where to go, and that was exactly the right difficulty i'd expect for a normal raid, R4 was a bit diappointing, but that was only half the fight as always on the 4th boss.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Arohk View Post
    Just cleared the normal mode, yeah i had some wipes on the third boss until everyone understood where to go, and that was exactly the right difficulty i'd expect for a normal raid, R4 was a bit diappointing, but that was only half the fight as always on the 4th boss.
    FFXIV encounter design summarized in a single clause.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Mawlzy View Post
    FFXIV encounter design summarized in a single clause.
    not really, i could do most of the other bosses (including the trial) and got by hit by almost nothing just by observing whats happening, the Brutalo had some "gotcha" moments withe the stone aoe where you had to hide behind a plant and and the platform switch .
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    Quote Originally Posted by Arohk View Post
    not really, i could do most of the other bosses (including the trial) and got by hit by almost nothing just by observing whats happening, the Brutalo had some "cotcha" moments withe the stone aoe where you had to hide behind a plant and and the platform switch .
    Funnily enough, in my younger days this frequently happened to me in restaurants.
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    m2 to m4 are acceptable m1 is not. Of course then you without my knowledge remove the counter to unbral ice and fire which is a bug or on purpose. But some of these attack are poorly presented. Right now i have no idea how the stone quarry attack works. When you look away from the boss it should not affect you that how petrification has worked so far. Someone thought it was the adds and so we placed them in front but then it went back to how it normally works in phase 2. Giga slash off shadow lord is poorly presented too. That knockback during the fire arena stage. I have no idea why the group is going all over the place to avoid the move. Really don't know why you would double down on this new way of doing things rather than modify to how things were before.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Grimr View Post
    m2 to m4 are acceptable m1 is not. Of course then you without my knowledge remove the counter to unbral ice and fire which is a bug or on purpose.
    Not sure what this has to do with the raid but the counter for Umbral Ice and Astral fire being removed was not a bug, as it no longer expires. And if you didn't know about this happening it's not SE's fault. They told us before the patch dropped that was going to happen.

    Right now i have no idea how the stone quarry attack works. When you look away from the boss it should not affect you that how petrification has worked so far.
    Actually in the earliest iteration of the mechanic he uses was avoided by hiding behind another add (in M7's case, a corpse of an add). It was called cursed shriek. Stone Quarry doesn't have the "gaze" telegraph because it isn't a gaze or petrifaction mechanic. It's a cursed shriek mechanic. This isn't just some ancient mechanic never seen again either it was done in P8.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Grimr View Post
    m2 to m4 are acceptable m1 is not. Of course then you without my knowledge remove the counter to unbral ice and fire which is a bug or on purpose. But some of these attack are poorly presented. Right now i have no idea how the stone quarry attack works. When you look away from the boss it should not affect you that how petrification has worked so far. Someone thought it was the adds and so we placed them in front but then it went back to how it normally works in phase 2. Giga slash off shadow lord is poorly presented too. That knockback during the fire arena stage. I have no idea why the group is going all over the place to avoid the move. Really don't know why you would double down on this new way of doing things rather than modify to how things were before.
    I'm not surprised someone who refuses to read patch notes when confronted with something changed in game isn't able to do these fights.

    When you look away from the boss it should not affect you that how petrification has worked so far. Someone thought it was the adds and so we placed them in front but then it went back to how it normally works in phase 2.
    Except it's not? Petrification has had other ways of dodging, including this one, which is to interject an add (or an add's corpse) between you and the source. Which is how it works on the whole fight.
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