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    Quote Originally Posted by ThaCa View Post
    Frontlines and Rival Wings are low stake PvP with massive number of players, being unable to play with friends would be stupid.

    They should make Casual CC queueable with at least duos, preferrably trios, since we have solos only Ranked already for any serious gaming.
    No one is telling you "get rid of groups entirely". Make it fair for everyone and match a group of players against a group of players first. Too long into queue with literally no group to face against = priority to get into next match.

    Same thing applies to your CC example btw, because your proposal asks for even more stomping of randoms.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Stasya View Post
    No one is telling you "get rid of groups entirely". Make it fair for everyone and match a group of players against a group of players first. Too long into queue with literally no group to face against = priority to get into next match.

    Same thing applies to your CC example btw, because your proposal asks for even more stomping of randoms.
    You are posting in a thread where the entire thesis is to "get rid of groups entirely".
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    When are AccountIDs getting removed from clients again? Multi-billion dollar company

    https://forum.square-enix.com/ffxiv/threads/516700-Patch-7.2-s-Account-ID-protection-measures-have-already-been-circumvented

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    Quote Originally Posted by WutWut View Post
    You are posting in a thread where the entire thesis is to "get rid of groups entirely".
    The first post:

    1. Prevent premade parties from queueing to FL or only match premades with other premades.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Exmo View Post
    The first post:
    Not going happen because it is simply people suffering anti premade syndrome and jump the gun to shoot at shadow
    There is simply not that many premade to begin with
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    Quote Originally Posted by Divinemights View Post
    Not going happen because it is simply people suffering anti premade syndrome and jump the gun to shoot at shadow
    There is simply not that many premade to begin with
    You say this but then someone else says there's loads of premades, premades make up half the game. We don't actually have the info so speculating on how common premades are is futile. What we can see though, is that certain premades make the game unplayable, and measures should be put in place to address that.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Exmo View Post
    You say this but then someone else says there's loads of premades, premades make up half the game. We don't actually have the info so speculating on how common premades are is futile. What we can see though, is that certain premades make the game unplayable, and measures should be put in place to address that.
    Don't agree with "unplayable," although "dull" is accurate for me.

    I'd suggest if the mode was balanced in any way such that the best premades did not exceed a 50% win-rate, the situation would be okay.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Exmo View Post
    You say this but then someone else says there's loads of premades, premades make up half the game. We don't actually have the info so speculating on how common premades are is futile. What we can see though, is that certain premades make the game unplayable, and measures should be put in place to address that.
    Oh many regulars know how many premades run around at any given time. On the days all the pvp players decide to queue a fl all at once for some reason, you'll see 3 in the same fl, at best. Maybe some duos, far less impactful. For the most part, solo player regulars who have at least some game sense and thus play decently, which makes you think they're premades but they're not.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Teno View Post
    Oh many regulars know how many premades run around at any given time. On the days all the pvp players decide to queue a fl all at once for some reason, you'll see 3 in the same fl, at best. Maybe some duos, far less impactful. For the most part, solo player regulars who have at least some game sense and thus play decently, which makes you think they're premades but they're not.
    One of my funnier experiences on Discord was to see 3 premades form in LFG, all appear on my team, and when I remarked on the fact, two members of said premades told me (abusively) no premades were on the field.

    I'd agree the coordinated premades on Aether are typically between 0-2 in a given match. The fact that a single one can have such a profound impact on the texture of that match is still a problem IMO. But outright banning them strikes me as a blunt instrument at this point, and better solutions are available.
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