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    Yoshi-P publicly announced that this was a mistranslation and that he did not say that at all.

    https://www.youtube.com/live/0JxPTIiDWtI?t=1956

    "About 3 days ago, on GamesRadar I believe. We're assuming that the person who interviewed Yoshida was different from the person who was actually editing the article. But there was mention about how we wanted to focus on evolving as an MMO, and Yoshida was talking about how we were going to enhance the gameplay, especially from 7.2 and beyond. And then, after all of that has concluded, we would look into kind of adjusting the jobs. And for some reason, the article kind of misconstrued it, and it made it sound like we would start applying drastic changes to jobs from 7.2 and beyond. And that got amplified by certain prominent Black Mage players. So, in this case itself the source was inaccurate, so I just wanted to clarify that as well."

    So what they meant was they were enhancing the gameplay (aka battles) in Dawntrail, especially from 7.2 because the first tier is always easy, and then after all that is done (we know from other interviews they mean 8.0), they will look at the jobs. The article writer misinterpreted it as jobs that would change from 7.2, when they meant the battles would.
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    Quote Originally Posted by LinaAkayomi View Post
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    You... know what Square Enix does to unprofitable online games, right? Spoiler, it is not fixing them.
    Also, you are assuming that I have not already drastically reduced the amount of money I spend on this game as an answer to the current state. I used to have multiple additional retainers and a bigger subscription. Now that I mostly play PVP, there is no need for all that. Still I would like to find enjoyment in other parts of the game again, enjoyment that used to be there before things were changed. With the lack of a proper exit questionare when cancelling a sub though, CS3 will never know exactly why people unsubscribe.
    Maybe one day I'll get fully bored of PVP too, and then my sub will be gone.


    Quote Originally Posted by Jeeqbit View Post
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    I do not see him pulling back on the "jobs will not get more simple" statement here. What was corrected was that the article was writing something about changes to jobs coming from 7.2 onward, which has already been accepted widely by the community and is not being pressed against.
    Enhancing battles only does not automatically also mean "gutting classes".
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    Quote Originally Posted by Jeeqbit View Post
    Yoshi-P publicly announced that this was a mistranslation and that he did not say that at all.

    https://www.youtube.com/live/0JxPTIiDWtI?t=1956

    "About 3 days ago, on GamesRadar I believe. We're assuming that the person who interviewed Yoshida was different from the person who was actually editing the article. But there was mention about how we wanted to focus on evolving as an MMO, and Yoshida was talking about how we were going to enhance the gameplay, especially from 7.2 and beyond. And then, after all of that has concluded, we would look into kind of adjusting the jobs. And for some reason, the article kind of misconstrued it, and it made it sound like we would start applying drastic changes to jobs from 7.2 and beyond. And that got amplified by certain prominent Black Mage players. So, in this case itself the source was inaccurate, so I just wanted to clarify that as well."

    So what they meant was they were enhancing the gameplay (aka battles) in Dawntrail, especially from 7.2 because the first tier is always easy, and then after all that is done (we know from other interviews they mean 8.0), they will look at the jobs. The article writer misinterpreted it as jobs that would change from 7.2, when they meant the battles would.
    And yet what just happened to BLM is, I would argue a drastic redesign and job change. In patch 7.2. So either he was lying and full of shit, or the job balance team decided to go ahead and pull the trigger on job changes ahead of schedule.... but actually on-schedule according to the interview, so who am I supposed to believe here?

    Either way, he said jobs would not be getting more simple, pretty unambiguously. Which is also....


    And don't even try "Well he didn't know". He's the Producer/Director, it's his job to know.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Jeeqbit View Post
    Yoshi-P publicly announced that this was a mistranslation and that he did not say that at all.

    https://www.youtube.com/live/0JxPTIiDWtI?t=1956

    "About 3 days ago, on GamesRadar I believe. We're assuming that the person who interviewed Yoshida was different from the person who was actually editing the article. But there was mention about how we wanted to focus on evolving as an MMO, and Yoshida was talking about how we were going to enhance the gameplay, especially from 7.2 and beyond. And then, after all of that has concluded, we would look into kind of adjusting the jobs. And for some reason, the article kind of misconstrued it, and it made it sound like we would start applying drastic changes to jobs from 7.2 and beyond. And that got amplified by certain prominent Black Mage players. So, in this case itself the source was inaccurate, so I just wanted to clarify that as well."

    So what they meant was they were enhancing the gameplay (aka battles) in Dawntrail, especially from 7.2 because the first tier is always easy, and then after all that is done (we know from other interviews they mean 8.0), they will look at the jobs. The article writer misinterpreted it as jobs that would change from 7.2, when they meant the battles would.
    Even if we took this completely at face value. It's quite the stretch to think the same team that has continued to dumb down jobs throughout Dawntrail is suddenly going to do a complete 180 and reintroduce measures of complexity come 8.0. Not only would that mean all the work they're currently doing would be functionally pointless in two years time, but might alienate the very demographic they seem to desperately be targeting with these changes. And that's not even considering how monumental an undertaking it would be to overhaul 20 jobs while still adding at least one more to that list.

    At best, a couple jobs might see their gameplay alters to be more complex while the rest languish in the queue waiting for their own ala Astro and Dragoon. The far more likely scenario is Yoshida widely exaggerating as he's been prone to do on several occasions now.
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