Can Square Enix stop gate-keeping mid-core contents behind Savage ILvl on release?

[Rithy255]

I don't think savage is midcore sadly but extreme for sure but consider what people said as midcore is something you can enter without problem like Bozja and eureka

It's really up to your opinion what midcore and hardcore or even casual is honestly. I think EXT and savage are very close in terms of difficultly while Normal and Ext are very far apart in terms of difficulty I would like some content in-between normal and EXT.

I'd define Savage/Ext Low-Hardcore both require investments, usually you will need a guide to clear or spend a few hours with prog for a fight.
Ultimates are Hardcore aka the highest tier of play
Casual content is basically the game plays for you, you don't really have to invest anything into casual content, it's honestly a shame with how little you even do, because sometimes i wanna chill but also still play the game lol.

I wish my opinions don't get misrepresented as "I can't clear Ext/savage" (not saying you are but the post your replying to seems to think that) but it's more sometimes I'm just not really wanting to put that sort of investment towards content but I would like something that's at least a little bit challenging if you define Ext as Midcore or not that doesn't really take away from my point that there should be something between the Normal to EXT jump.

[DiaDeem]

REEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEE

I have cleared several EX and SVG fights, including Twintania over a decade ago

Get some help. You shouldn't be raging like this at strangers on the internet.

[Nero-Voidstails]

I do understand all that do not worry it's just a part of me think guides play to much of a importance in any content now and it kinda sadden me. I get the point of a guide for sure if you farm for the mount because nah not gonna wipe 300 time but what sadden me is often the first guide come out on like the second or third days of release then everyone will put in the pf the guide or you don't join like to me savage is more hardcore the mid core not because of the difficulty of the content but because of how intense people can be. I don't say they all are bad not at all like normal/casual is way to easy and doesn't teach you your full kitmost boss can be soloed by the tank. so the jump on extreme even if you don't know your full kit you will be learning or will be somewhat fine without knowing all of it. Savage if you don't know your kit you will be heavily punished by mechanic or just causing a wipe.


that's why I think Bozja and eureka are often seen as midcore not because of the content but because of what it does in itself.Most player can enter they fight are rough but manageable and will force the player to learn there kits. So for me someone that struggles to do extreme or savages not because of my skills because I know I have them but because of my schedule for me joining a static or a pf is rough because most of them run late at night or at like 5pm EST when I eat and 2 hours later I go to bed.


So to me there is no gate keeping the only gate keeping that happen is the community doing it to each other. Other thing to extreme will often take less time to do then a savage and that in itself could also be a factor when I say something is something isn't to be like I know everything no it's just seeing what people see as what with the time they have. Take everyone point of view not your own.


Chaotic is Extreme on phase one but phase two is where it blurr the line of savage and also 24 person isn't really easy to play with but phase 2 of to much people are dead well just jump off because it is a wipe like to me chaotic is a weird content it's fun even tho I never cleared the lowest I saw was .5 and never saw that after but I took days off for it now I don't have the time for that.

so in my book if people force a guide into people face or they are locked to me it should be counted as hardcore not because of the difficulty but because of the demands made upon player but I also get why because wipe over and over is annoying.

so the last thing I will say is this try to understand others people view on things to not only your own.

[Jeeqbit]

I wish I could have done the extreme this tiers not gonna lie haha but I have odd wake up time so kinda hard to do them x)

Not too late to do at least Valigarmanda if you do find a party. I just finished farming it today. Super easy fight. I mean it's constant moving around which is a bit tense even compared to M2S, but it's also your standard stack/spread stuff constantly so if you know the game it's nothing. Lots of people doing it last minute. They are doing Everkeep a lot too.

Didn't really focus on Sphene yet, but I got half way through the fight and what I did of it was crazy easy.

[Nero-Voidstails]

Not too late to do at least Valigarmanda if you do find a party. I just finished farming it today. Super easy fight. I mean it's constant moving around which is a bit tense even compared to M2S, but it's also your standard stack/spread stuff constantly so if you know the game it's nothing. Lots of people doing it last minute. They are doing Everkeep a lot too.

Didn't really focus on Sphene yet, but I got half way through the fight and what I did of it was crazy easy.

I heard about it to and it the mount are better then Endwalker one too tho I am worried about the last mount when you get all of them

[Underscore]

So you want Criterion to be item level synced so that gear is even more useless than it currently is? Do I understand that right?

[Kohashi]

I have cleared several EX and SVG fights, including Twintania over a decade ago

Get some help. You shouldn't be raging like this at strangers on the internet.

Your picture/ GIF pretty much also sums up 95% of this forum ngl.

The game no longer fits me.. REEEEE
white knights need to leave REEE
Wuk needs to die.. REEE
Cosmetics locked behind chaotic... REEE

do I need to go on?

[brinn12]

If the developers makes it possible to clear criterion with crafted gear, and players set the requirement to 15 item levels above that, it's not SE's fault.

If SE were to lower the minimum item level, the content would become too easy for those with level-cap gear (it already is). Lowering the level cap would only punish players with BiS gear, which makes no sense.

SE's real mistake here is not putting level-cap gear in normal Alliance Raids.

[TakumiHarada]

If the developers makes it possible to clear criterion with crafted gear, and players set the requirement to 15 item levels above that, it's not SE's fault.

If SE were to lower the minimum item level, the content would become too easy for those with level-cap gear (it already is). Lowering the level cap would only punish players with BiS gear, which makes no sense.

SE's real mistake here is not putting level-cap gear in normal Alliance Raids.

No one's punishing people "BiS gear". What??? (laugh-cry emoji)
If giving people without BiS a huge disadvantage on release (I don't know how many times I need to emphasise this) without BiS gear is how you "don't punish" them I don't know what to say.
(Edit: I edited out the "locking people out")

Lock the new Exploration island in 7.25 behind 760 and 790 in the 7.45 expansion then.
It's "easy enough" and only people with BiS should be allowed in the 48-person savage raid amiright?

[TakumiHarada]

So you want Criterion to be item level synced so that gear is even more useless than it currently is? Do I understand that right?

The only time the gear is useful is this time's Chaotic gear for FRU, which btw is extremely marginal anyway.
There was literally no point getting the Criterion gear for "BiS" purposes back in EW. Stop gaslighting.