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    It's hard to say how it will balance out on paper, but theoretically it's a buff to every support job. Those eating better will be bards, scholars & ... dark knights.


    To get 100BH you will need 25 assists now, as opposed to 50. Which is a huge change, and strong teams will be able to be all 100BH after one engagement.

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    I actually thought they might buff assists in order to take pressure away from playing kill jobs to support jobs, but I didn't think they would straight up double the points for assists. Seems like a lot, but with netcode as it is kills can be somewhat a lottery. I reserve judgement whether or not it will be bad or not until I play.
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    Quote Originally Posted by TofuLove View Post
    It's hard to say how it will balance out on paper, but theoretically it's a buff to every support job. Those eating better will be bards, scholars & ... dark knights.


    To get 100BH you will need 25 assists now, as opposed to 50. Which is a huge change, and strong teams will be able to be all 100BH after one engagement.

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    I actually thought they might buff assists in order to take pressure away from playing kill jobs to support jobs, but I didn't think they would straight up double the points for assists. Seems like a lot, but with netcode as it is kills can be somewhat a lottery. I reserve judgement whether or not it will be bad or not until I play.
    My guess is it's going to further magnify skill/commitment differences. And make the first couple of engagements more important.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Mawlzy View Post
    My guess is it's going to further magnify skill/commitment differences. And make the first couple of engagements more important.
    I think the other way to think about it is how much kills are worth proportionally to assists.

    If currently 1 kill = 5 assists.
    Under new changes 1 kill = 2 assists.

    That's quite a big a change.
    I personally thought they needed to buff assists slightly because BH gain on "support" jobs was slow, maybe 1 kill = 3/4 assists; but I didn't think they needed to nerf the Battle High gain from kills.

    Are they saying that 1 kill is now worth less BH than before? Why is that? Is it easier to gain kills than before? Is this to balance the new incoming role actions that we don't know everything about?
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    Quote Originally Posted by TofuLove View Post
    I think the other way to think about it is how much kills are worth proportionally to assists.

    If currently 1 kill = 5 assists.
    Under new changes 1 kill = 2 assists.

    That's quite a big a change.
    I personally thought they needed to buff assists slightly because BH gain on "support" jobs was slow, maybe 1 kill = 3/4 assists; but I didn't think they needed to nerf the Battle High gain from kills.

    Are they saying that 1 kill is now worth less BH than before? Why is that? Is it easier to gain kills than before? Is this to balance the new incoming role actions that we don't know everything about?
    Pretty sure just based on typical burst damage that however it shakes out it'll mean that BH5 grows faster. Like any death that includes one or more assists now gives more BH points total to the aggressing team. So the only situation in which less BH is awarded is for solo kills, which I think are relatively rare.
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