Tanaka or Yoshi?

[Dragon]

The very existence of this thread is exasperating in the utmost.

Rapture (XIV code name) was first mentioned in September at E3 2005. Two thousand, five.

XIV was launched Sep. 30th 2010.

That's not rushed. That is a long freaking development period. Five. Damn. Years. Additionally, they actually had video running at E3 that year, rather than simply mentioning "Oh, hey, we're working on something new", which means the actual development time was even longer than the five years already mentioned.

Rapture was nothing more, and nothing less, than a tech demo for Final Fantasy XI.

Then the game tanked. Completely. How many of the players here were actually around for EXP fatigue, and EXP acting like skillups in FFXI? When there was actually no content aside from guild leves?

Funny, the whole EXP fatigue thing just got re-implemented under a different name, and everyone's praising its usefulness.

Yoshi P and Co. have turned this game around in very short order, and I doubt any of the wistful "Oh, poor, misunderstood Tanaka! He was given but five years to attempt to please this unbelievably ungrateful, perpetually discontent batch of self-entitled new-age gamers" commenters will be anywhere near as 'understanding' of any problems that arise, or continue to exist, come 2.0.

Why should anyone be "forgiving"? 2.0 is hailed by Yoshi&Co. fans as being the quintessential turn-around. It's like when voters were stupid enough to vote for Obama thinking there'd be actual "change" without even knowing that he was a CIA plant.

If you have so much bloody faith in the man, Tanaka is running XI. Go there. Just. Go.

Contrarily, but it's fairly obvious you don't even know what's happened in FFXI.

Comparing Tanaka favorably to Yoshi P makes you either a blind sheep, or a sadomasochist.

Comparing Yoshi-P just as favorably makes you a blind sheep all the same as he's not done anything that can really be compared to in the first place; it's like telling us that Obama needs another term as president because of everything he "inherited" from Bush, the fact is he had enough time just like Bush had enough time, and every president before him had enough time.

Bush gave America large scale, open world PvP in Iraq.

Lol...

Obama might listen to the players, but it's just the same old same old that we see in other MMOs like New Zealand and Sweden. He added new servers to the health care system, but that's pretty tame. He is creating an ambitionless, boring, generic MMO, and quite frankly I don't remember that being in the constitution.

Neither of them really listened to the players. Of course, we can't let people know this, or else the world might just revolt and turn against the Empire of the United States of Europe.

If Tanaka returned to take the helm and undermined Yoshi-P i would leave the game in a heartbeat.

I'd hope you do.

5 years is plenty of time, GW2 production started 2007 and it is to be released 2012. The game is an actual complete game, not the crap XIV was and which SE had to apologize for. Tera same thing 2007, WOW 2000 to 2004. 4 years... best mmo of all time by many gaming sites. should i keep going?

1. The company behind Tera stole assets from NCSoft that were to be used in the development of Lineage 3.

1b. Tera is nothing more than an Aion clone.

2. GW2 is already gaining reputation in the MMO circle of having a failed launch.

3. World of Warcraft was released in far worse shape than any MMORPG before/after it.

If you saw the 2005 tech demo for XIV you can tell that the development process must have fucked up somewhere in the middle and for some reason SE was forced to re-do the game from scratch and by the time they started they didnt have enough time to finish it for release date and that is what the FFXIV we got. SE will never admit this or give us any explanation but with 5 years and the amount of money and staff SE has, the game should have been much much better. It has nothing to do with the XI expansions.

Again, that's all Rapture was: a tech demo. Period. A tech demo is used to demonstrate the full potential of a new engine or console system, nothing else. That's not even mentioning the fact that Rapture was a tech demo for... FINAL FANTASY XI, not FINAL FANTASY XIV!

What will happen when you release an incomplete expansion, then pull most of your team from that game to work on a new game? It would slow down production now wouldn't it? It's WELL KNOWN the original XIV team was primarily the XI team, much like now do you really think SE decided:

"Well FFXI don't really need a dev team, so lets get rid of all of them"?

Tech demos are for platform testing purposes only. Where's FFVII for the PS3? It's been 6 years since that demo, using your logic in stating 5 years is plenty of time they're overdue for releasing if a tech demo isn't just for platform testing, no? By the way, that demo was on the Xbox 360, yet we're playing a PC version.

Thank you Elexia.