

I usually watch a summary.
Live letters would be more interesting if the game itself was in a good spot, but currently I don't think it is.


Maybe it's because the game has become unfun for most players now? But your attitude is just pathetic.
"You can only criticize the game if you still enjoy playing it!"
Well that's how Dawntrail has reached nearly Stormblood numbers in player population. The feedback from people who used to love the game and has fallen out of love should be important.



I usually don't like Zepla, but she was spot-on in this video.
If you're like me and don't watch Zepla's vids, watch this one. I think it's a home run.
I hope Yoshi P sees this.
It's not a hate video, it's a mourning video. It mourns a game that we've invested so many years playing and loving and enjoying together. There's hurt in this video, and that's what the community is doing: hurting.
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I hope the devs are listening. We need the devs to please listen.

Again, I don't know where this is coming from, but I have yet to say that giving an opinion is wrong.
Once more, someone comes to dismiss me—belittle me—and use me as a veil, an excuse to justify pessimism and apathy. We all voice our opinions out of love for the game. I assume you want the game to thrive, just as I do. All I've strived for is to lower the temperature.
I’ve never said people shouldn’t share their opinions. In fact, I want people to voice concerns; that’s how things improve. What I am saying is that the conversation often gets derailed when it stops being constructive and turns into a pile-on of unrelated grievances, making it harder to address the core issues.
Yet, even this message is met with disdain, snark, and cynicism.
But this isn’t how you win people over to your point of view. And when you look at the bigger picture, the meta-narrative, positive change only happens when we approach concerns pragmatically—not pessimistically.
When we fuel our words with venom, all we sow is apathy toward the game and demoralization of the player base. It’s not helpful. That’s all I’m saying.
I don't see how your path creates the positive change you say you want—especially when, faced with even a modicum of resistance, your first instinct is to belittle me. We share the same purpose, just different approaches. But being this way will only create disillusionment and misery for the players who read or engage with it. It won’t change the state of the game if we can’t express our concerns without emotionally charged hostility.
In the end, I do believe FF14 will adapt. I have no reason to think otherwise.
But I worry that if this rhetoric continues, much like what happened with WoW, even if the game does improve, people will have been so poisoned by the surrounding negativity—not by the game itself, but by the sentiment—that they’ll never come back.
And I'd rather live through a thousand lulls than see that manifest. This is a community, after all—and it pains me to see good and kind people twist the dagger deeper into the hearts of everyone here. I share the pain, I truly do. But we don't fix the game this way; we only end up wounding ourselves.
Try to sell the game to someone while carrying that heavy sentiment in your heart—it can't be done. But show a blueprint for a better future, and the results become clear. There are many who’ve made critical videos about the game—direct, honest, and addressing the same concerns we all share—yet they do so without demoralizing the public. And that makes all the difference. We want the same thing.
This is not a time for mourning. You can mourn when the game is dead but we're not dead yet. So we should do our best to keep the will of fire alive not snuff it out!
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I want to remind you that we are consumers. Customers. We are not selling anything and it's also not our job to manage the community. You can blame SE for actually all of this. There are no mods communicating with us on the forum and feedback gets ignored. You are making yourself their clown if you try to do their job for them. People will not listen to you because they are not looking for your response, they hope that their complaints are eventually loud enough to be heard by the company.
Nice speech, though, very emotional, I will give you that. But this is pointless.
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Exactly this. We are paying them. If you can post on this forum, it means your subscription is active. We are paying them.
9 years ago, moderators would respond to posts and let people know that their feedback is heard. That doesn't exist any more. When's the last time a moderator actually acknowledged a forum post? It's been YEARS. It feels like we're speaking to deaf ears.
We don't know where the disconnect is, here. A moderator is reading our messages, they're checking to see if it violates the Terms of Service, and they go on their merry way. Are they sending this feedback to the higher ups? Who knows. We have absolutely no way of knowing that.
Maybe they are, and maybe it's the higher ups ignoring it. Or maybe it's Yoshi P ignoring it. Who knows. But there are clearly people who are doing a terrible job at Square-Enix that used to interact with the community.
The REAL issue is that those moderators reading this, the higher ups, and even Yoshi P are being paid by the people in this forum. And people are getting tired of subscribing. Instead of leaving quietly in the night, they're vocalizing their concerns, fears, sadness, and even anger. Do you know how many companies would KILL for this kind of feedback from their customers when something was going wrong? Focus groups are paid for what has been contributed on these forums.
Reality is, the moderators are being paid by us. The higher ups are being paid by us. Yoshi P is being paid by us. And if there's any disconnect right now where Yoshi P isn't hearing the concerns and cries of the community, then something is horribly wrong.
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I hope the devs are listening. We need the devs to please listen.

Gradual decay? Calling me a cultist for advocating constructive criticism? I’m not here to defend the game blindly. I care about it and want to focus on fixing things, not tearing them down.
The tone has become too negative, and this thread proves it. Positive change requires some optimism. Balanced neutral pragmatic and diagnostic non-emotionally charged verbiage to hyper-focus grievances in a logical format.
Zepla’s influence matters. She helped grow the community, but now her words are driving people away. That’s why I push back. We should be building up, not tearing down.
If she still values the game, her approach should inspire hope, not foster hopelessness. As a public figure, there’s responsibility for what she says and how it affects the community.
Your view seems to be that the game is doomed. I’m pushing back against that. The devs have the lion's share of the blame, but if we, as a community, can’t encourage hope, we’re also killing the game.
Words have power. We need to wield them carefully, especially those with influence.
Let’s lower the temperature. Critique without demoralization. There's nothing disagreeable with that approach.
Acknowledging overstepping and where things can go too far is just as important as the criticism itself.
If we desire the success of the game surely we can do it without driving our own people away.
If you want to snap somebody out of being a FF14 player it's not speaking to Wuk Lamat that'll do it - A Zepla video or your own words just might.
Eventually, FF14 will adapt and change, just like WoW has. Let’s ensure we don’t create an apathetic community like WoW’s, but instead, inspire people to return and enjoy the game.
What the game has to offer is still thousands of hours of enjoyment for newer players, we offer the best free trial experience of the major MMOs. I want to keep those players here.
Be critical, but let’s keep it constructive—less doom, more hope. (I'm saying this hoping this breaks through - Optimism! I esuna your doom!)
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