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  1. #31
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    Medim Azurarok
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    Quote Originally Posted by Supersnow845 View Post
    Especially since PCT and RDM are at the limits of their movement potential (and SCH is already in the “just drop casts to position you are a healer anyway” phase)
    wouldn't be surprised if they've also deleted Energy Drain from SCH and gave it a charge of RuinIV every Aetherflow to match SMN
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    Quote Originally Posted by Krokov View Post
    Do you have a link in regard to PCT?
    It's from the live letter. Can't really screenshot it but they basically said according to the translators, "We tried really hard not to nerf picto but we have to. It is only a slight nerf though."

    I would not be surprised if the melee buff is to compensate for the picto nerf in addition to whatever else they will do.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Supersnow845 View Post
    What is their obsession with melee dominance

    PCT dominates the meta for 2 patches and their response is to nerf PCT, lobotomise BLM AND nerf it AND buff the melees

    Like why do they hate casters so much
    I mean, if casters are the drowning kid, what about the rphys skeleton at the bottom of the pool?
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  4. #34
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    Quote Originally Posted by Maltothoris View Post
    It's from the live letter. Can't really screenshot it but they basically said according to the translators, "We tried really hard not to nerf picto but we have to. It is only a slight nerf though."

    I would not be surprised if the melee buff is to compensate for the picto nerf in addition to whatever else they will do.
    The melee buff was unrelated

    That was their flawed design premise that they could buff melee then make melee uptime harder….even though melees already do 10% more damage than the non damage casters supposedly for this reason
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    As a healer main in this game for nigh on 14 years all I can say is that I’m tired. My role has been eroded of complexity and expression for 3 expansions. I’ve watched the tanks do my role for me for 2 expansions and my feedback and critiques continue to fall on deaf ears.

    I have no idea who modern healers are designed for but I know now it’s not me. This is the first expansion I’m truly considering dropping the healer role and not returning, so if that was the goal- congratulations I guess

  5. #35
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    Lua Navkov
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    Even with all the complaints about VPR/MNK/DRG/AST/BLM, jobs are being dumbed down yet again.

    How do they expect us to believe in anything good for the 8.0 job rework? It also seems that the raid design won't be much different this time, and 7.2 was supposedly the beginning of a new fight design that would pave the way for the 8.0 job changes.

    Something also tells me that the PCT changes will either be insufficient or outright kill the job. There is no middle ground when the main issue we have is the interaction between PCT’s toolkit and Ultimate, yet they only focus on numbers rather than the toolkit.
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    Last edited by brinn12; 03-15-2025 at 01:25 AM.

  6. #36
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    Quote Originally Posted by brinn12 View Post
    Even with all the complaints about VPR/MNK/DRG/AST/BLM, jobs are being dumbed down yet again.

    How do they expect us to believe in anything good for the 8.0 job rework? It also seems that the raid design won't be much different this time, and 7.2 was supposedly the beginning of a new fight design that would pave the way for the 8.0 job changes.

    Something also tells me that the PCT changes will either be insufficient or outright kill the job. There is no middle ground when the main issue we have is the interaction between PCT’s toolkit and Ultimate, yet they only focus on numbers rather than the toolkit.
    PCT’s change will either be

    A) nerf it so hard it needs ultimate amounts of downtime to even approach melee damage, otherwise it’s doing DNC damage with no rezz
    B) make motifs require a target AND nerf it not quite as hard

    There is no way PCT makes it out of this in any sort of somewhat decent shape and it’s still being treated better than BLM
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    As a healer main in this game for nigh on 14 years all I can say is that I’m tired. My role has been eroded of complexity and expression for 3 expansions. I’ve watched the tanks do my role for me for 2 expansions and my feedback and critiques continue to fall on deaf ears.

    I have no idea who modern healers are designed for but I know now it’s not me. This is the first expansion I’m truly considering dropping the healer role and not returning, so if that was the goal- congratulations I guess

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    Never played Back Mage in my life, can anyone explain this in melee terms?
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    Bring back 6.0 Dragoon. I want my job back.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Maltothoris View Post
    It's from the live letter. Can't really screenshot it but they basically said according to the translators, "We tried really hard not to nerf picto but we have to. It is only a slight nerf though."

    I would not be surprised if the melee buff is to compensate for the picto nerf in addition to whatever else they will do.
    The melee buff is to compensate for supposedly less possible uptime due to the new mechanics.
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    if these changes actually happen, I'm going to end up deleting my account.
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  10. #40
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    Quote Originally Posted by Underscore View Post
    Never played Back Mage in my life, can anyone explain this in melee terms?
    Take 5.0 SAM and in one patch turn it into 7.1 VPR
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    As a healer main in this game for nigh on 14 years all I can say is that I’m tired. My role has been eroded of complexity and expression for 3 expansions. I’ve watched the tanks do my role for me for 2 expansions and my feedback and critiques continue to fall on deaf ears.

    I have no idea who modern healers are designed for but I know now it’s not me. This is the first expansion I’m truly considering dropping the healer role and not returning, so if that was the goal- congratulations I guess

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