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    Quote Originally Posted by TaleraRistain View Post
    More options for things to do aren't a bad thing. I don't know how long you've been running the tome events but the Mogpendium and those different types of challenges are fairly new. They already include treasure maps as part of challenges so it makes sense if one option was field content. It wasn't too long ago that it was all just straight dungeons/raids/trials, and their challenges focusing on either other adventuring content or non-adventuring content has been quite popular.

    Also, even vets sometimes don't have everything. Mogtomes give a temporary alternative to farming something. And that can be welcome for something like a stubborn extreme. Both Hades and Elidibus have had some rotten drop rates when I was farming recently to help out some friends. There's also usually at least one reward that comes from Ishgard Restoration, so those who don't really enjoy crafting have a way to get that for a short time. Mogtome only lasts a month, so the incentive to do the normal content isn't gone forever. And they focus on old rewards because then they're not competing with current content. There is always at least one item that you can only get through the event as well.
    “They aren’t competing with current content”

    WHAT CONTENT?

    This is the entire point. These are explicitly placed in the timeline as veteran retention events. They aren’t there for sally sprout who thinks making it HW is worth 4 posts on the main sub of reddit. Nobody I know (anecdotal I know) is resubbing or holding off on letting their sub lapse so they earn elidibus’s whistle by fishing and cutters cry and an earring nobody will ever use.

    But they offer zero incentives for anyone who has been around longer than 4 months because 99% of these things ARE STILL OBTAINABLE. Are you really chomping at the bit to run prae 4 times to skip some bad luck with eldibus’s whistle? Why don’t they use this to actually offer unique rewards people have been asking for for years?

    If they came out and said “okay we are releasing an alt job specific glam for each class’s mit for the DPS, esuna for the healers, rampart for the tanks and peleton for the phys ranged, 100 tokens per class” I’d be queueing for hints non stop for a month. Give me strider boots that aren’t more trouble then they are worth or…….you know give me some horizontal progression

    Old still accessible glams you dump in your glamour drawer and forget you even have is not a strong incentive for so many people. Yet they don’t even try to diversify
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    Last edited by Supersnow845; 02-20-2025 at 04:33 PM.
    As a healer main in this game for nigh on 14 years all I can say is that I’m tired. My role has been eroded of complexity and expression for 3 expansions. I’ve watched the tanks do my role for me for 2 expansions and my feedback and critiques continue to fall on deaf ears.

    I have no idea who modern healers are designed for but I know now it’s not me. This is the first expansion I’m truly considering dropping the healer role and not returning, so if that was the goal- congratulations I guess

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    Quote Originally Posted by Supersnow845 View Post
    But they offer zero incentives for anyone who has been around longer than 4 months because 99% of these things ARE STILL OBTAINABLE. Are you really chomping at the bit to run prae 4 times to skip some bad luck with eldibus’s whistle? Why don’t they use this to actually offer unique rewards people have been asking for for years?
    I always thought this events were made for people like me. I simply play the game and do zero research outside the game. So I have no idea what Elidibus' Whistle does, or where do get it (obviously from Elidibus, but no idea what difficulty level - expert, savage, ultimate, chaotic, insane, pointless, ... - or how to beat it).
    So whenever a Moogle event starts, I look at the list and always see something nice I like to have, and which is fun to invest my play time in.

    Seeing how a casual like me enjoys the Moogle events, it's clear that someone from the other side of the spectrum will not see much point in doing them.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Supersnow845 View Post
    WHAT CONTENT?

    This is the entire point. These are explicitly placed in the timeline as veteran retention events. They aren’t there for sally sprout who thinks making it HW is worth 4 posts on the main sub of reddit. Nobody I know (anecdotal I know) is resubbing or holding off on letting their sub lapse so they earn elidibus’s whistle by fishing and cutters cry and an earring nobody will ever use.
    The devs have no clue how to make a proper content/reward system, especialy for evenst.

    The best evidence for that are criteon dungeon, which offered a laughable selection of "rewards"

    Cloud of darkness chaotic at least was a little bit better this time, it has cosmetics, mounts AND savage ilvl armor sets, i can't complain here.


    What is an event in FF14?, talk to 5 NPC's, do maybe 1 fate and you are done, you get an emote and MAYBE an oufit, if it doesnt end up in the mog station, and when the event is over , everything goes to the cash shop.
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    Last edited by Arohk; 02-20-2025 at 06:35 PM.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Supersnow845 View Post
    “They aren’t competing with current content”

    WHAT CONTENT?

    This is the entire point. These are explicitly placed in the timeline as veteran retention events. They aren’t there for sally sprout who thinks making it HW is worth 4 posts on the main sub of reddit. Nobody I know (anecdotal I know) is resubbing or holding off on letting their sub lapse so they earn elidibus’s whistle by fishing and cutters cry and an earring nobody will ever use.
    Current extremes, for one. They don't include mounts from current content. Or minions either. This really is and always has been a "in case you missed it, here's a temporary alternate way to get X" event. It's never dressed itself up as any more than that so I don't why you're getting so b*tchy about the rewards. I don't need most of them either. I'm glad it's there for those who haven't been playing going on 11 years like I have. It's fun that it often lets us see things in roulettes that we don't normally see. I was happy with the one before 7.1 because the Weapon trials were included, so those actually popped up in roulettes again.
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    Quote Originally Posted by TaleraRistain View Post
    Current extremes, for one. They don't include mounts from current content. Or minions either. This really is and always has been a "in case you missed it, here's a temporary alternate way to get X" event. It's never dressed itself up as any more than that so I don't why you're getting so b*tchy about the rewards. I don't need most of them either. I'm glad it's there for those who haven't been playing going on 11 years like I have. It's fun that it often lets us see things in roulettes that we don't normally see. I was happy with the one before 7.1 because the Weapon trials were included, so those actually popped up in roulettes again.
    “In case you missed it”

    THE REWARD IS STILL AVAILABLE NOW

    because again these are veteran retention events. Who are they retaining? If you are so new to the game this actually has stuff that would make you reconsider dropping your sub then you likely weren’t even considering dropping it

    What kind of event is “hey if you don’t want to farm eldibus unsynced (which you can do right now) how would you like to get the same reward from CUTTERS CRY THE PEAK OF 14 CONTENT”
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    As a healer main in this game for nigh on 14 years all I can say is that I’m tired. My role has been eroded of complexity and expression for 3 expansions. I’ve watched the tanks do my role for me for 2 expansions and my feedback and critiques continue to fall on deaf ears.

    I have no idea who modern healers are designed for but I know now it’s not me. This is the first expansion I’m truly considering dropping the healer role and not returning, so if that was the goal- congratulations I guess

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    Quote Originally Posted by Supersnow845 View Post
    “In case you missed it”

    THE REWARD IS STILL AVAILABLE NOW

    because again these are veteran retention events. Who are they retaining? If you are so new to the game this actually has stuff that would make you reconsider dropping your sub then you likely weren’t even considering dropping it

    What kind of event is “hey if you don’t want to farm eldibus unsynced (which you can do right now) how would you like to get the same reward from CUTTERS CRY THE PEAK OF 14 CONTENT”
    You kind of answered your own question didn't you? I don't want to farm eldibus unsynced, so I can get things I otherwise wouldn't from Cutter's Cry.

    I think it's fun to mark off the minimog and other challenges each week. Plus some rewards can be a pain, so it's fun to have a limited time event to do a variety of content to earn the mogtomes, instead of, for example, running an old extreme over and over again to get a card drop with horrible RNG.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Wasselin View Post
    You kind of answered your own question didn't you? I don't want to farm eldibus unsynced, so I can get things I otherwise wouldn't from Cutter's Cry.

    I think it's fun to mark off the minimog and other challenges each week. Plus some rewards can be a pain, so it's fun to have a limited time event to do a variety of content to earn the mogtomes, instead of, for example, running an old extreme over and over again to get a card drop with horrible RNG.
    So this event is designed for………..lazy newer players who want easier ways to get easy rewards and this is supposed to hold people over in a patch lull?

    Fantastic A++ design right there
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    As a healer main in this game for nigh on 14 years all I can say is that I’m tired. My role has been eroded of complexity and expression for 3 expansions. I’ve watched the tanks do my role for me for 2 expansions and my feedback and critiques continue to fall on deaf ears.

    I have no idea who modern healers are designed for but I know now it’s not me. This is the first expansion I’m truly considering dropping the healer role and not returning, so if that was the goal- congratulations I guess