Please, make auto-demolition 90-120 days. It's time.

[hydralus]

I wouldn't say there's a single thing I could point to. It was more like, as I was going through them I just felt bored. Unengaged. Disinterested. Maybe it's because they were linked to a story that bored me to tears at best and made me blindingly angry at worst.

And maybe the story doesn't matter much to you. I get that. For some people, the story is secondary at best. But for I and others, the story was what made us care about the game. I never got stories in WoW like I got from 14. I never cared about WoW characters like I cared about 14 characters (I sure as hell didn't cry over any WoW characters like I did over Haurchefant). My player character in WoW never felt like she mattered to the story. It felt like she mattered in 14.

Until Dawntrail, where we were basically relegated to the same state as the WoW player character. We were just there. So maybe that's another reason why the dungeons and raids felt so empty to me. I didn't feel like anything I'd done had mattered in this expansion, so I felt no connection to any of the dungeons or raids. I was just IN them, doing things for the sake of doing them.

So it really is just about the story, huh. Naturally whatever feelings you have on the matter is valid, but still doesn't have much to do with the housing situation. Things that could improve the housing situation is adding more wards to worlds with high populations, enacting a tax, or moving to an instanced system, not just being hoarded by people who don't want to play. I'd want housing to be more available to everyone, including yourself and others, not just some selfish desire to be able to stop playing the game yet hold onto a limited item.

[Clockworks]

I have been saying that they need to limit you only having one personal and one FC plot per world and I would be ok if it was per data center as well. They should force those that own entire wards to have to give up their plots. I proposed they are given 45 days to choose which plots they will keep and the rest will be demolished and they are refunded the cost of the plot and the construction permit. If they don't choose, then the game randomly chooses the plots to keep and demolish, this would free up thousands of plots owned by a few dozen people. They should also add the FC workshop to personal homes and also allow our alts to share and decorate them including alts from other worlds and data centers since the game already knows it's your account. Then allow us to have rooms for our alts, pretty much turn all personal plots to FC housing so it's all the same across the board. I also want a chest similar to the FC chest you can use so you can share items between your alts from other worlds and data centers even. I have so much housing things I wish I could transfer between my homes in Seraph and Exodus.

this would free up thousands of plots owned by a few dozen people

Seriously ? Thousands ? Lmao.

There arent even that many multiowners outside of Dynamis, and Dynamis is basically a graveyard, that's why there's so many multiowners on there, because the DC has no other purpose than housing, the DC is entirely dead and there are thousands of mediums and small plots all across the board, in fact I'll provide actual numbers, those include the hundreds if not thousands of mediums and the larges open as well.

Plots open per world on Dynamis :

Cuchulainn : 4873 plots
Golem : 4785 plots
Hali : 402 plots
Kraken : 3186 plots
Maduin : 1085 plots
Marilith : 1004 plots
Rafflesia : 4526 plots
Seraph : 128 plots.

Do you understand that if what you are asking for was followed, all that would achieve is make existing wards on dynamis even more empty than they already are, if not emptying some entirely, because the DC simply doesnt have anywhere near enough people, and a lot of the housing is taken by multiowners as no one else moved for it and wanted it.

The hate agaisnt multiowners taking houses on a dead DC is ridiculous at this point, and there arent anywhere near enough outside of dynamis that it matters, stop putting the blame for SE's artificial scarcity on multiowners, and for the love of god, removing multiowners houses wouldnt magically free up thousands and thousands of plots, just stop it.

[Rinoa_353]

Seriously ? Thousands ? Lmao.

There arent even that many multiowners outside of Dynamis, and Dynamis is basically a graveyard, that's why there's so many multiowners on there, because the DC has no other purpose than housing, the DC is entirely dead and there are thousands of mediums and small plots all across the board, in fact I'll provide actual numbers, those include the hundreds if not thousands of mediums and the larges open as well.

Plots open per world on Dynamis :

Cuchulainn : 4873 plots
Golem : 4785 plots
Hali : 402 plots
Kraken : 3186 plots
Maduin : 1085 plots
Marilith : 1004 plots
Rafflesia : 4526 plots
Seraph : 128 plots.

Do you understand that if what you are asking for was followed, all that would achieve is make existing wards on dynamis even more empty than they already are, if not emptying some entirely, because the DC simply doesnt have anywhere near enough people, and a lot of the housing is taken by multiowners as no one else moved for it and wanted it.

The hate agaisnt multiowners taking houses on a dead DC is ridiculous at this point, and there arent anywhere near enough outside of dynamis that it matters, stop putting the blame for SE's artificial scarcity on multiowners, and for the love of god, removing multiowners houses wouldnt magically free up thousands and thousands of plots, just stop it.

You can, some people have multiple accounts, one alt can have 8 FC plots and one personal per world and an account can have 40 characters, that adds up (up to 360 plots per account). How am I hating against multi plot owners when I'm one of them? I own four plots (two personal and two FC plots on Seraph and Exodus).

[Clockworks]

You can, some people have multiple accounts, one alt can have 8 FC plots per world and an account can have 40 characters, that adds up (up to 360 plots per account).

Sure lmao, you yourself have 2 houses, which makes you a multiowner by the way, hopefully you're ready to chose between your two larges.

[Rinoa_353]

Sure lmao, you yourself have 2 houses, which makes you a multiowner by the way, hopefully you're ready to chose between your two larges.

They are in separate data centers, so one personal and FC plot per world/data center as my suggestion said, please read.

[Clockworks]

They are in separate data centers, so one personal and FC plot per world/data center as my suggestion said, please read.

That still makes you a multiowner, why would you be able to have houses cross DC ? You want to avoid multiowning, either you go all the way or you dont, you cant do it half way only.

So as I said before, if you want to do what you said you want to do, I hope you're ready yourself to relinquish one of your two larges. Dont be hypocritical and use the "It's a different DC" excuse, you are still multiowning.

[Rinoa_353]

That still makes you a multiowner.

And? I never said to only own one plot per acount, that's you putting words in my mouth, just stop. One thing is to own one FC and one personal plot but another is 9 plots in a world when they are sitting there empty and undecorated. I would even consider demolishing my FC plots if they allowed me to have rooms for my alts and also the FC workshop in my personal home, therefore, I would reduce my number of plots to just two total in separate data centers.

[Clockworks]

And? I never said to only own one plot per acount, that's you putting words in my mouth, just stop. One thing is to own one FC and one personal plot but another is 9 plots in a world when they are sitting there empty and undecorated. I would even consider demolishing my FC plots if they allowed me to have rooms for my alts and also the FC workshop in my personal home, therefore, I would reduce my number of plots to just two total in separate data centers.

So you're okay with multiowning as long as it benefits you, noted.

Glad we got to a conclusion.

[Rinoa_353]

So you're okay with multiowning as long as it benefits you, noted.

Glad we got to a conclusion.

Again, that's you putting words in my mouth, I never said such a thing, I'm just against people having obscene number of plots in a world.

[IndraSyngiwyb]

So it really is just about the story, huh. Naturally whatever feelings you have on the matter is valid, but still doesn't have much to do with the housing situation. Things that could improve the housing situation is adding more wards to worlds with high populations, enacting a tax, or moving to an instanced system, not just being hoarded by people who don't want to play. I'd want housing to be more available to everyone, including yourself and others, not just some selfish desire to be able to stop playing the game yet hold onto a limited item.

I, too, would prefer that they simply make it so everyone has a house. But they clearly have NO intention of doing that, so I don't think it's unreasonable to ask that they NOT demolish our houses if we decide to (as Yoshi P said) go play other games for a while and come back later.

And I also reject this continued notion of yours that I and others are being "selfish" for wanting to unsub for just a little while, wait for the next expansion, and come back to find our houses still waiting for us.

I find it infinitely more selfish (and scummy) for Square to maintain a system that intentionally makes housing scarce and takes advantage of that scarcity to manipulate their most loyal players into continuing to pay their sub. All the while spitting in those very player's faces by churning out an absolutely trash tier expansion.