This is pure, disgusting greed

[Red-thunder]

have a spine and defend your rights as a consumer

The marketing and psychology PhDs don't spend those 5 to 6 years of their prime adult years in grad school making sub-median wages just so they can work for a consumer advocacy nonprofit making 60k when they can go to a big 4 consulting group or join a fortune 500 and make 200k-400k, or if they're lucky, stay in academia and be a business school prof making 200-300k writing papers on consumer psychology and how best to exploit them, running all sorts of experiments to see how best to entice the consumers under different treatments, while doing side consulting gigs to make some extra cherry on the top while having paid sabbaticals and only working 9 months a year.

It's just the sad truth that firms know far more about how to exploit us than consumers do, and one of the key ways they do this is by breeding loyalty and establishing a fake camaraderie with the consumer. There's no money to be had in advocating for the consumer other than for your own sense of justice.

[TaleraRistain]

The way I see it, if it's used by an MSQ or story character, then they don't want you to be able to use it since it keeps those MSQ characters unique. But they are willing to let you anyway if you pay them.

That's pretty much the reason I wasn't expecting it anywhere but the Mogstation. I don't think we have anything that we've gotten that was used by an NPC that wasn't Mogstation, have we? It's not really unique when everyone buys it and see you see it everywhere, but like you said, they at least will allow that if players pay them. And eventually players find a new shiny so you don't see it used as much. Even I've moved on from using the Lyse hairstyle and I wanted that for years.

[Clockworks]

That's pretty much the reason I wasn't expecting it anywhere but the Mogstation. I don't think we have anything that we've gotten that was used by an NPC that wasn't Mogstation, have we? It's not really unique when everyone buys it and see you see it everywhere, but like you said, they at least will allow that if players pay them. And eventually players find a new shiny so you don't see it used as much. Even I've moved on from using the Lyse hairstyle and I wanted that for years.

How nice of SE to let us use our money to get an hairstyle from NPC's.

Seriously people are really ready to defend anything on this forum

"Well actually they dont want you to have the hairstyle but they're -allowing- you to buy it with real money because that totally makes it better"

seriously lmao do yall even read yourself and question "maybe what i'm typing right now isnt making any sense"

[TaleraRistain]

How nice of SE to let us use our money to get an hairstyle from NPC's.

Seriously people are really ready to defend anything on this forum

"Well actually they dont want you to have the hairstyle but they're -allowing- you to buy it with real money because that totally makes it better"

seriously lmao do yall even read yourself and question "maybe what i'm typing right now isnt making any sense"

Cash shops are a thing. You can deny it, but that's the reality in live service games. And they are a LOT less invasive and have a lot less in them in this game than in other live service or MMO games. I was commenting to Jeeq that the general trend we've seen seems to be that anything NPC related does go to the Mogstation. That doesn't mean we don't get things in game. We just got a hairstyle with Chaotic. We just got an emote with the Valentione's event. They're going to put some stuff in the cash shop. It's just the nature of genre. We can decide if we think it's worth it or not. I don't buy from it often because I don't think it's worth it. I don't begrudge those who do.

[Red-thunder]

And they are a LOT less invasive and have a lot less in them in this game than in other live service or MMO games.

There are more cash shop items in this game than a literal F2P mobile game like clash of clans LMAO

[TaleraRistain]

There are more cash shop items in this game than a literal F2P mobile game like clash of clans LMAO

And a lot fewer than something like WoW or EQII and they both shove it in your face in-game. I've always appreciated that Yoshi-P avoided that. He allowed the dream-fitting thing but that's actually kind of nice since you can see if something would work for your character. The one thing most other MMO cash shops have over XIV is that they're usually account-wide. That's a big reason I just don't buy much besides not having interest. I have alts.

[Clockworks]

And a lot fewer than something like WoW or EQII and they both shove it in your face in-game. I've always appreciated that Yoshi-P avoided that. He allowed the dream-fitting thing but that's actually kind of nice since you can see if something would work for your character. The one thing most other MMO cash shops have over XIV is that they're usually account-wide. That's a big reason I just don't buy much besides not having interest. I have alts.

And a lot fewer than something like WoW

Please compare both stores and the amount of stuff on them and come back with the results.

There is literallly no way you said FFXIV has less stuff on the store than WoW. I refuse to believe it

[Kandraxx]

They are definitely starting to go the GW2 route where every good looking piece is coming from the store, while the newly added ingame drops are just standard issue AI stuff where you can't tell a lvl 100 chest from a lvl 50 one.

[Saraide]

A game with subscription fee shouldnt have a cash shop at all.

[tsuchii]

$100 for literal MONTHS worth of content

Also mogstation costumes = "optional" items

Also games you can't afford = optional