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  1. #10371
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    TheDustyOne's Avatar
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    Dusty Two
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    Behemoth
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    Red Mage Lv 100
    Part of me wants them to go completely nuts with the jobs in the new exploration zone and redesign them with unique kits. I feel like you could make phantom jobs more impactful in the process if the jobs themselves had more unique kits and utility rather than feeling like reskins of the same role. I know it ain't happening, but that would be one way to go about experimenting with job design ideas rather than hoping they don't screw us over every patch or expansion.
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  2. #10372
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    Malto Thoris
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    Behemoth
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    Well in an effort to make sure this stays front page, you have to wonder if they are going to introduce more healers at now when consider the following,

    So presumably speaking, if this follows the same trend and trends are something this team follows to a z, the next expansion will have a tank and a dps (most likely phys ranged to make it 4.) Then the next expansion would be healer and dps. However, it will be a pure healer or a shield healer? Either scenario would lead to at least 7 years of waiting for the other to get added assuming they follow the same pattern again and with the longer patches, one side of the healers won't be getting anything.
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  3. #10373
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    Supersnow845's Avatar
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    Andreas Cestelle
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    Jenova
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    Scholar Lv 100
    They are in a lost lose situation regardless because unless they do a ground up rework of content/healers or both then regen healers continue to be useless and a new regen healer will just compete with AST’s limited audience for the spot of “non WHM regen healer” since WHM’s population never changes but they’ve also shown they have no idea how to make a shield healer since SGE is just SCH’s belated 5.0 rework they dumpstered when 2 chan lost its shit at them deleting energy drain in 5.0
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    As a healer main in this game for nigh on 14 years all I can say is that I’m tired. My role has been eroded of complexity and expression for 3 expansions. I’ve watched the tanks do my role for me for 2 expansions and my feedback and critiques continue to fall on deaf ears.

    I have no idea who modern healers are designed for but I know now it’s not me. This is the first expansion I’m truly considering dropping the healer role and not returning, so if that was the goal- congratulations I guess

  4. #10374
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    Kes13a's Avatar
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    Etherea Stormaire
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    Zalera
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    for the love of all the gods... and the vaunted 12.. no more jobs of any kind.

    if they cannot fix the mess the have for themselves now.. why add more garbage to the pile.

    FIX teh jobs they have.. then they can add more.
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    #FFXIVHEALERSTRIKE

  5. #10375
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    OliviaLugria's Avatar
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    Olivia Lugria
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    Sargatanas
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    Black Mage Lv 100
    Quote Originally Posted by Maltothoris View Post
    Well in an effort to make sure this stays front page, you have to wonder if they are going to introduce more healers at now when consider the following,

    So presumably speaking, if this follows the same trend and trends are something this team follows to a z, the next expansion will have a tank and a dps (most likely phys ranged to make it 4.) Then the next expansion would be healer and dps. However, it will be a pure healer or a shield healer? Either scenario would lead to at least 7 years of waiting for the other to get added assuming they follow the same pattern again and with the longer patches, one side of the healers won't be getting anything.
    What’s the point of adding new ones when they’re already all the same >.>
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  6. #10376
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    Medim Azurarok
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    Siren
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    Machinist Lv 100
    it'd force them to rethink the regen/shield healer split at least
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  7. #10377
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    Malto Thoris
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    Behemoth
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    Indeed, I actually do believe they need to stop adding jobs and fixing what they have but sadly one of the main draws are new classes. The only reason I bring this up is because healers are the only ones that have this problem. Any tank that is brought in can easily fit in cause they need to be able to do both ot and mt duties. Melees are just melees and same goes for casters. Phys range is admittedly also suffering an identity crisis. However for healers, we have the pure/shield split and so when they do finally add one, one of them is going to get shafted that expansion. Now, they could do it as something like one regen healer on expansion and then shield the next. That brings the issue of healers getting "favored".

    At this point, it's a no win path they are at and hopefully when that time comes, they look over it. (Even though I have very little faith of them actually doing it)
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  8. #10378
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    Ashton Crowe
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    Seraph
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    Paladin Lv 90
    I'm just here to beg, SE Please . . Give us a new tank class

    Before the Warriors discover a phantom job exploit that makes them effectively immortal and not need any heals whatsoever.
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  9. #10379
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    Andreas Cestelle
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    Quote Originally Posted by AshtonCrowe View Post
    I'm just here to beg, SE Please . . Give us a new tank class

    Before the Warriors discover a phantom job exploit that makes them effectively immortal and not need any heals whatsoever.
    You mean what they already are
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    As a healer main in this game for nigh on 14 years all I can say is that I’m tired. My role has been eroded of complexity and expression for 3 expansions. I’ve watched the tanks do my role for me for 2 expansions and my feedback and critiques continue to fall on deaf ears.

    I have no idea who modern healers are designed for but I know now it’s not me. This is the first expansion I’m truly considering dropping the healer role and not returning, so if that was the goal- congratulations I guess

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    J'thaldi Rhid
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    Mateus
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    Machinist Lv 100
    Warriors were already immortal in Bozja, and they didn't even need an exploit for it. Just put up essence of the bloodsucker and equip lost slash, all done, you're immortal now.
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