Ninja is unfun and has too many issues, please address.

[Divinemights]

Does bushin not increase your damage and give you a defensive shield?

Does sukuchi not allow you to escape but also deliver a powerful attack?

Does doton not give you a defensive buff while also dealing good damage and also having a repeatable CC effect?

Does it. It have two stuns that you can use back to back or bait out purifies and then use again?

Like, it has pure damage options, pure defensive options, and mixture options. I think the design is wonderful and allows for a wide variety of roles depending on team comp.

For of all, any action/spell force you to choose between offense and defense is not a good action/spell
Bushin is only the end result of tune down PvP system for casual playing.
Also, Bushin sync best with ambush, defense reduction only good for 3s when you stuck in the ambush animation.
The real defense reduction is from doton, but that is laughable for a meele compares to DRG, SAM, RPR, and Reaper.

How is doton going to help when now Ranges domnate both Frontline and Crystal Conflict?
I also prefer one controllable stun rather 2 consecutive stuns when most of time 2nd stun usually useless because of Purify
Beside, i think it is fair to ask Shukuchi ts function as what tooltip describes

[Sunhwapark]

I also prefer one controllable stun rather 2 consecutive stuns when most of time 2nd stun usually useless because of Purify

If you spam the Raiju attacks back to back mindlessly, then yeah of course your 2nd stun is going to be considered useless.
Purify is only 3 seconds of protection from CC, so even after they cleanse the first attack there is still an opportunity to land the second since it will force them to follow-up with a Guard(unless SAM/BRD) or face tank more CC.

[Valence]

For of all, any action/spell force you to choose between offense and defense is not a good action/spell
Bushin is only the end result of tune down PvP system for casual playing.
Also, Bushin sync best with ambush, defense reduction only good for 3s when you stuck in the ambush animation.
The real defense reduction is from doton, but that is laughable for a meele compares to DRG, SAM, RPR, and Reaper.

How is doton going to help when now Ranges domnate both Frontline and Crystal Conflict?
I also prefer one controllable stun rather 2 consecutive stuns when most of time 2nd stun usually useless because of Purify
Beside, i think it is fair to ask Shukuchi ts function as what tooltip describes

Range dominate in CC? What is this timeline you're playing in? I want in...

[Divinemights]

Range dominate in CC? What is this timeline you're playing in? I want in...

From time line where I get 4 characters to Crystal rank last season
I admitted, I am not a hardcore Crystal Conflict and hop to different character once i capped 450 tome.
Not going to debate you with Range on this as perspective is different
I know you play Machinest and all your concern is from Machinest's perspective.
I am not going to spend time to debate you on this becuase my persepctive is more from Meele and Tank
Debate between two opposite spectrum is waste of time; therefore I never participate in your discussion about range, isnt it?
This is about Ninja kit hopefully for next 8.1
Like I said, i just hope for a minor adjustment on Shukuchi

[Valence]

From time line where I get 4 characters to Crystal rank last season
I admitted, I am not a hardcore Crystal Conflict and hop to different character once i capped 450 tome.
Not going to debate you with Range on this as perspective is different
I know you play Machinest and all your concern is from Machinest's perspective.
I am not going to spend time to debate you on this becuase my persepctive is more from Meele and Tank
Debate between two opposite spectrum is waste of time; therefore I never participate in your discussion about range, isnt it?
This is about Ninja kit hopefully for next 8.1
Like I said, i just hope for a minor adjustment on Shukuchi

I mean sure, I'm biased (I do not just play MCH actually), but literally every tier list I've seen by way better players than me (including JP players) has literally put most of the red ranged jobs down at the bottom, so it begs some questions. I know the JP meta used to be much more different in CC back in endwalker, but right now... things seem a lot more aligned between regions to me.

And again, I do hope they fix all the janky ninja delays. I just can't stand how obnoxious they have made Seiton on the other hand. This LB needs to be kneecapped, and I'm saying this as a DNC that literally abuses this every time I play with a NIN.