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    BigCheez's Avatar
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    Quote Originally Posted by AmiableApkallu View Post
    In a world without heroin, syringes can continue to exist and be useful.

    In a world without ACT-interacting-with-FFXIV, FF Logs decreases in usefulness to the point of might-as-well-not-existing. FF Logs owes its existence to ACT.



    Sure. But that has nothing to do with a website deciding to anonymize by default information that it obtained, and could only obtain, via ToS-frowned-upon means.
    FFLogs owes its existence to WarcraftLogs. It's a syringe. You can put whatever you want in it.

    It might not have anything to do with anonymising the data but it has everything to do with the asinine comment that I was replying to.
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    SongOfTheWind's Avatar
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    Freja Heleh
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    Quote Originally Posted by BigCheez View Post
    FFLogs owes its existence to WarcraftLogs. It's a syringe. You can put whatever you want in it
    It’s pretty disingenuous to try to bend reality to fit your argument. Fflogs expects a certain format and it is far from just a battle log copied out. It is not a generic platform, it is ff14 specific. If you host and design your site around smth that is not legal - no matter if you are not obtaining it yourself - you are part of it. Like it or not. Try host and distribute pirated media and you will find out if you are syringe or have a copyright strike against you.
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    Videatur Runt
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    Odin
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    Quote Originally Posted by SongOfTheWind View Post
    It’s pretty disingenuous to try to bend reality to fit your argument. Fflogs expects a certain format and it is far from just a battle log copied out. It is not a generic platform, it is ff14 specific. If you host and design your site around smth that is not legal - no matter if you are not obtaining it yourself - you are part of it. Like it or not. Try host and distribute pirated media and you will find out if you are syringe or have a copyright strike against you.

    True enough, FFlogs uses telemetry data such as someone's map position to review replays from the logs and this is not obtainable by just looking at the Battle Log, so without ACT it wouldn't have the same functionality at all as Warcraftlogs (where logging is an option that is activated in Settings -> Network -> Advanced Logging, so within the game that doesn't need any addon). Now having said that, FFlogs has been around since 2015 and continually makes references to lodestone to upload a player's profile, so Square Enix has had plenty of time (10 years) to evaluate, and the site is still there so all this talk makes no sense. SE knows very well about logs and parse is fundamental in part of community, paying community like you and me and to think it will close tomorrow because you don't like it is simply unrealistic.
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