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    Quote Originally Posted by Supersnow845 View Post
    Yeah our “freedom” allowed us to put down a (completely justified) peasant rebellion in kugane in support of a (corrupt) oligarch because we were buds with the (local thug gang) sekiseigumi and this was presented as the correct option

    She was definitely in the wrong but let’s not pretend the WOL doesn’t veer a little too close to “weapon to maintain the status quo” a little too often
    Oh please... What a stretch. The sekiseigumi are law enforcement, they don't make the laws, they enforce them.

    Corruption exists in every facet of society, that doesn't give anyone the right to go around committing murders. Ugetsu was an extremist who committed atrocities. Next thing you'll tell me, Luigi Mangione was justified too.

    And this comes back to the WOL was there for Musosai and Momozigo, not to change the way Oriental society operates.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Erzaa View Post
    Oh please... What a stretch. The sekiseigumi are law enforcement, they don't make the laws, they enforce them.

    Corruption exists in every facet of society, that doesn't give anyone the right to go around committing murders. Ugetsu was an extremist who committed atrocities. Next thing you'll tell me, Luigi Mangione was justified too.

    And this comes back to the WOL was there for Musosai and Momozigo, not to change the way Oriental society operates.
    Ah, the good old debate between reformism and direct action. Didn't expect it to crop up on the XIV official forums though.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Valence View Post
    Ah, the good old debate between reformism and direct action. Didn't expect it to crop up on the XIV official forums though.
    Maybe it's a testament to how much better the writing in the game used to be? *shrug*
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    Quote Originally Posted by Valence View Post
    Ah, the good old debate between reformism and direct action. Didn't expect it to crop up on the XIV official forums though.
    Wait until you see the Bluesky thread.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Mawlzy View Post
    Wait until you see the Bluesky thread.
    Please no. I opened a page yesterday and needed eye bleach immediately.
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