Frontlines: There should not be ANY rewards for 2nd or 3rd place

[TofuLove]

If you think it's a race to the bottom, these changes are only gonna make the race even faster.

How so, please describe how you see this playing out?

[Menriq]

How so, please describe how you see this playing out?

Have you been in a CC where one side has destroyed the other, so much so that they just wait in the spawn for the match to be over? This is what is going to happen. They won't leave because of debuff, so they'll just sit in spawn and not even try. Maybe it's just you, but I have rarely seen people just give up in FL. Take today for example. We went up against a premade, and we were in 3rd place. We were too far behind, so we made it our goal to not let the premade win, and we did that. In your scenario, the non-premade teams would have more than likely not tried to work together and just waited for the match to be over since there is no incentive to even try for 2nd in your scenario since it's winner take all.

[TofuLove]

We were too far behind, so we made it our goal to not let the premade win, and we did that. In your scenario, the non-premade teams would have more than likely not tried to work together and just waited for the match to be over since there is no incentive to even try for 2nd in your scenario since it's winner take all.

I don't think coming 2nd is an achievement, sorry. I have reported people for encouraging "throw so we can get out faster" in frontline or "lets feed first place so we get out".

You'd hope if winning was higher stakes, more such teams would be formed. I know this forum and community has weird fixation on premades being to blame for everything in frontline, so I don't want to go down this pit. My opinion which i voiced before on this forum - you fight fire with fire, and you'd hope more premades would be formed to not have 1 team dominating every game. We had this on Light around mid last year - it was pretty good.

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If you want to come 2nd, you just start being 3rd, and go after 2nd team that's trying to win. BAM! You are now in 2nd.

[Menriq]

I don't think coming 2nd is an achievement, sorry. I have reported people for encouraging "throw so we can get out faster" in frontline or "lets feed first place so we get out".

You'd hope if winning was higher stakes, more such teams would be formed. I know this forum and community has weird fixation on premades being to blame for everything in frontline, so I don't want to go down this pit. My opinion which i voiced before on this forum - you fight fire with fire, and you'd hope more premades would be formed to not have 1 team dominating every game. We had this on Light around mid last year - it was pretty good.

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If you want to come 2nd, you just start being 3rd, and go after 2nd team that's trying to win. BAM! You are now in 2nd.

I don't think my point is coming across. If you think people aren't trying now, they aren't going to suddenly try harder if it's winner take all and the other two teams get nothing. People will either give up quicker, or they won't queue at all. If there was a ranked versus of FL, then I would be a lot more willing to have higher stakes. In the casual mode we have now? I don't think there needs to be any changes to the rewards.