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    When reading static recruitments, words like: casual, midcore, semi-hardcore, and hardcore are often used to describe the static. Are they only referring to the static schedule?
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    Quote Originally Posted by Yeol View Post
    When reading static recruitments, words like: casual, midcore, semi-hardcore, and hardcore are often used to describe the static. Are they only referring to the static schedule?
    they should refer to both schedule and skill level
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    Quote Originally Posted by Yeol View Post
    When reading static recruitments, words like: casual, midcore, semi-hardcore, and hardcore are often used to describe the static. Are they only referring to the static schedule?
    They're referring to the level of investment.

    Casual = the primary goal is to have fun.
    Midcore = the primary goal is to clear the content.
    HArdcore = the primary goal is to clear the content as quickly and efficiently as possible.
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    Quote Originally Posted by BigCheez View Post
    They're referring to the level of investment.

    Casual = the primary goal is to have fun.
    Midcore = the primary goal is to clear the content.
    HArdcore = the primary goal is to clear the content as quickly and efficiently as possible.
    I know a lot of casuals/midcore statics that have spent more time than me to clear M1s-M4s or P9s-P12s / P5s-P8s (cleared all of them week 1 with 20h / 40h / 36h)
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    Quote Originally Posted by CaedemSanguis View Post
    I know a lot of casuals/midcore statics that have spent more time than me to clear M1s-M4s or P9s-P12s / P5s-P8s (cleared all of them week 1 with 20h / 40h / 36h)
    Did you quote the wrong post? I didn't say anything about time.
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    Quote Originally Posted by BigCheez View Post
    Did you quote the wrong post? I didn't say anything about time.
    "level of investment"

    even if the goal is to have fun, casual actually invest way more time than a good semiHC/HC group
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    Quote Originally Posted by CaedemSanguis View Post
    "level of investment"

    even if the goal is to have fun, casual actually invest way more time than a good semiHC/HC group
    Investment doesn't mean time. A casual group will be more invested in the group than the content regardless of how much total time they spend progging the content. A hardcore group will be more invested in clearing the content than the players and may kick players for poor performance if it helps them clear faster, etc.
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    Quote Originally Posted by BigCheez View Post
    Investment doesn't mean time. A casual group will be more invested in the group than the content regardless of how much total time they spend progging the content. A hardcore group will be more invested in clearing the content than the players and may kick players for poor performance if it helps them clear faster, etc.
    Players can refer to themselves as "hardcore raiders" which doesn't only refer to how much they're willing to invest into raiding, but their skill level too.

    When a static labels itself as "hardcore" they're looking for "hardcore raiders". So the term refers to more than just investment. They're filtering out players based on skill level too.

    Which is the whole point I'm trying to make. Words like casual, midcore, hardcore can refer to multiple things depending on the context.
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    Player CaedemSanguis's Avatar
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    Quote Originally Posted by BigCheez View Post
    Investment doesn't mean time. A casual group will be more invested in the group than the content regardless of how much total time they spend progging the content. A hardcore group will be more invested in clearing the content than the players and may kick players for poor performance if it helps them clear faster, etc.
    So a casual with no raid xp, if he wants to "clear fast" then he becomes a hardcore ?
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    Quote Originally Posted by Yeol View Post
    When reading static recruitments, words like: casual, midcore, semi-hardcore, and hardcore are often used to describe the static. Are they only referring to the static schedule?
    If you want my opinion, casual static is an oxymoron. If you're at the stade where you participate in a static, you're no way casual. Or you don't know what that means. You're at least a midcore player.
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