FFXIV population decline continues

[Nero-Voidstails]

im a HC raider (M4s day 2) and my static started FRU yesterday (december vacation) we're nearly on phase 3 with 6 hours raid time

even with me being a hc raider who do all pve content, i've unsubbed for 4 months since DT release, I really dont understand why casuals keep their sub, each casual should sub only 1 month per expansion, but guess what they dont, and to me they really deserve to be treated like that, why bother doing content for casuals when they keep giving money ?

without those people you wouldn't have a game be a HC raider on haha remember that more then 90% of the player base is casual and you also have roleplayers midcore players that have been left in the dust since endwalker

[BigCheez]

without those people you wouldn't have a game be a HC raider on haha remember that more then 90% of the player base is casual and you also have roleplayers midcore players that have been left in the dust since endwalker

90% of the playerbase is casual but 20% cleared M4S and savage isn't midcore content.

[Evergrey]

90% of the playerbase is casual but 20% cleared M4S and savage isn't midcore content.

You're both wrong.
Everyone knows it's the 1%.
/s

[Jeeqbit]

90% of the playerbase is casual but 20% cleared M4S and savage isn't midcore content.

When you get that percent as a percentage of people who cleared the normal version, which I think is a good baseline, it's more like 30%. It's also around that much even as a percentage of people who cleared Dawntrail MSQ. The rates in JP climb to around 50%. And Lucky Bancho's stats seem to agree with that too.

And that's just people who got through M4S - it's quite common to just clear 1, 2 or 3 floors.

[BigCheez]

When you get that percent as a percentage of people who cleared the normal version, which I think is a good baseline, it's more like 30%. It's also around that much even as a percentage of people who cleared Dawntrail MSQ. The rates in JP climb to around 50%. And Lucky Bancho's stats seem to agree with that too.

And that's just people who got through M4S - it's quite common to just clear 1, 2 or 3 floors.

...And we still have about 3 months until 7.2. It will keep creeping higher.

Time to collectively agree to stop pretending savage isn't midcore, I guess.

[Evergrey]

Time to collectively agree to stop pretending savage isn't midcore, I guess.

Does that mean that SE have to add even harder content to make it "hardcore"?
If people consider Savage Midcore.

[BigCheez]

Does that mean that SE have to add even harder content to make it "hardcore"?
If people consider Savage Midcore.

Ultimate already exists. I'd say Criterion (Savage) was hardcore content too, but IDK if we're getting more of those.

[Evergrey]

Ultimate already exists.

ah, true.
I keep forgetting about that since I don't plan on doing them.

[CaedemSanguis]

Does that mean that SE have to add even harder content to make it "hardcore"?
If people consider Savage Midcore.

HC raider usually do everything above/equal ex or savage so to my mind there is enough content for us

2 ultimates
7 ex
12 savage turn
3 criterions
3 chaotic raid ?
a deep dungeon

+ all the "chill" content like dungeons/variant or alliance raid

[ZephyrMenodora]

90% of the playerbase is casual but 20% cleared M4S and savage isn't midcore content.

Are you suggesting there are only 226K characters in this game? Because if you believe that 22.3% of the entire playerbase is 50,387 characters I don't know what to tell you.