FFXIV population decline continues

[Lilapop]

I would pretty much say the same thing.
That the active numbers of players/subs drop over the span of an expansion is normal and no developer would react to it as "omg, people are leaving".
It's only when that curve takes a drastic nosedive in a short timespan that it will cause an alarm and possible actions from the developers.

And yes, people are very vocal about this expansion.
But when have people not complained about something?
SE is aware of this for sure, no questions about that.
But looking at the numbers of players it's not like they will drop everything to fix it since things are still within the scale of "the normal curve".

People are vocal, but not vocal enough to actually... do anything but complain on the forums Yoshi P more likely than not barely reads.

[Lilapop]

im a HC raider ...

i've unsubbed for 4 months since DT release ... each casual should sub only 1 month per expansion ... hey really deserve to be treated like that, why bother doing content for casuals when they keep giving money ?

This reads "well im raider and i sub when i raid, i have content, casuals clearly like the game because they keeping subbing so why give them content so just more raider plz" to answer your original question, casuals stayed subbed for many reasons, their houses, friends, roleplaying, fishing, whatever tomfoolery goes on at venues, MSQ, crafting/gathering, blue mage, triple triad, gold saucer etc. Any combo of any of those, even just one of those is a valid reason for someone to stay subbed if they find joy through it.

[CaedemSanguis]

casuals stayed subbed.

Well dont expect more content if you have already enough content to keep you sub

[Kahnha]

If yoshi P was your friend on top of "take a break if you are burned out" they would add "your sub is paused when you are not signed into the game"

maybe then they would be motivated to patch the game more than every 3rd of the year xD

in end long patch cycles and same formula we got 5 years ago is what's cooling interest in the game maybe the game should be free to play if they want to be slow about adding contents to the mmo.

just to do some math a person pays 15 usd sub for 10 years that guy paid 1.8 grand why nickel and dime them over outfits? if you got a group that paid more or around that much that are saying do better why are you not listening when they are not pleased with your writers? ?

and that's the thing if DT's story was good no one would be noticing this type of stuffs to begin with your mmo boasts an award winning story Yoshi P stop being fine with mixed reception to the story.

in end we'll see, been thinking to be done with this game after EW anyways hope it does better since XIV has been a long tme favorite since... 2016 but square has been on a tear of poor choices NFTs, broken up remakes, over priced slop games, likely out of touch Fossil CEOs, single player mmos list goes on...

[AvoSturmfaust]

And yet again people bashing the story, yea it isnt great but PLS STOP doing like ffxiv is the big story mmo with the best story which has now a bad story, no it isnt, we had TWO good expansion HW and ShB everything else was trash,

ARR - Trash
HW - Good
SB - Trash
ShB - Great
EW - Trash
DT - Trash

we have more trash story expansions then we have good ones, so why is there now a issue that DT is bad? its nothing new.

[Erzaa]

And yet again people bashing the story, yea it isnt great but PLS STOP doing like ffxiv is the big story mmo with the best story which has now a bad story, no it isnt, we had TWO good expansion HW and ShB everything else was trash,

ARR - Trash
HW - Good
SB - Trash
ShB - Great
EW - Trash
DT - Trash

we have more trash story expansions then we have good ones, so why is there now a issue that DT is bad? its nothing new.

Uhm... no? I disagree?
ARR - Alright (especially with some of side quests having some truly bleak storylines too!)
ARR Patches - Good (but dragged down by alot of pointless quests inbetween)
HW - Amazing
HW Patches - Decent
SB - Good (bogged down by a boring antagonist but overall good story)
SB Patches - Alright
ShB - Amazing
ShB Patches - Decent
Endwalker - Great
Endwalker Patches - Alright
Dawntrail - *vomit*

[NegativeS]

And yet again people bashing the story, yea it isnt great but PLS STOP doing like ffxiv is the big story mmo with the best story which has now a bad story, no it isnt, we had TWO good expansion HW and ShB everything else was trash,

ARR - Trash
HW - Good
SB - Trash
ShB - Great
EW - Trash
DT - Trash

we have more trash story expansions then we have good ones, so why is there now a issue that DT is bad? its nothing new.

This is extremely tone-deaf, ARR is still considered decent if a bit slow-paced, SB had more high points than low points, EW fulfilled many peoples' desires for a decent conclusion to the Zodi-arc.

[Sunhwapark]

so why is there now a issue that DT is bad? its nothing new.

Probably because people are critiquing more than just the MSQ?
People can say that a particular expansion was good for its story and bad for its battle/player content provided in each expansion, for example.

[Nero-Voidstails]

im a HC raider (M4s day 2) and my static started FRU yesterday (december vacation) we're nearly on phase 3 with 6 hours raid time

even with me being a hc raider who do all pve content, i've unsubbed for 4 months since DT release, I really dont understand why casuals keep their sub, each casual should sub only 1 month per expansion, but guess what they dont, and to me they really deserve to be treated like that, why bother doing content for casuals when they keep giving money ?

without those people you wouldn't have a game be a HC raider on haha remember that more then 90% of the player base is casual and you also have roleplayers midcore players that have been left in the dust since endwalker

[BigCheez]

without those people you wouldn't have a game be a HC raider on haha remember that more then 90% of the player base is casual and you also have roleplayers midcore players that have been left in the dust since endwalker

90% of the playerbase is casual but 20% cleared M4S and savage isn't midcore content.