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    Even with all the other MMO "refugees" gone or rage quitting ... the core base of this game will continue, just less profit for SE.

    /Shrug
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    Quote Originally Posted by FudoMyoo View Post
    Even with all the other MMO "refugees" gone or rage quitting ... the core base of this game will continue, just less profit for SE.

    /Shrug
    Typically, that isn't what happens. Once people are used to making a certain amount of money, they don't want to make less. What generally happens is that the devs will start looking for ways to squeeze the smaller playerbase for the same amount of money that they were making before via more aggressive monetization.
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  3. #173
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    Quote Originally Posted by BigCheez View Post
    Typically, that isn't what happens. Once people are used to making a certain amount of money, they don't want to make less. What generally happens is that the devs will start looking for ways to squeeze the smaller playerbase for the same amount of money that they were making before via more aggressive monetization.
    What you don't understand is, FF14 is already a failed project in 2010. ARR is just an additional bonus to SE. These core base players (like me) all came over from 1.0.

    Japanese work differently and they are unlikely to change their game overnight like Blizzard. (or over a quarterly patch).

    It is what it is, either we like it, or we quit and save our money.
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    Quote Originally Posted by FudoMyoo View Post
    What you don't understand is, FF14 is already a failed project in 2010. ARR is just an additional bonus to SE. These core base players (like me) all came over from 1.0.

    Japanese work differently and they are unlikely to change their game overnight like Blizzard. (or over a quarterly patch).

    It is what it is, either we like it, or we quit and save our money.
    As one legacy player to another trying to pretend we are anything more than a rounding error these days or more important than any other player is just…….why?

    Hell I’m less useful than a normal player because I pay less of a sub than everyone else because of my legacy discount

    Legacy stopped meaning anything 10 years ago. 14 isn’t a “failed project that never gave up”, that sentiment is dead
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    As a healer main in this game for nigh on 14 years all I can say is that I’m tired. My role has been eroded of complexity and expression for 3 expansions. I’ve watched the tanks do my role for me for 2 expansions and my feedback and critiques continue to fall on deaf ears.

    I have no idea who modern healers are designed for but I know now it’s not me. This is the first expansion I’m truly considering dropping the healer role and not returning, so if that was the goal- congratulations I guess

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    It took WoW having a 50% active player loss within a month of an expansion drop to course correct. Until people start realizing 'huh, maybe I don't need this housing plot to be happy', nothing will change.

    And, y'know. Given the general population's track record, I think it's safe to err on the side of nothing changing.

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    My outline for a Chemist healer: https://forum.square-enix.com/ffxiv/threads/513527-Healer-Concept-Draft-Chemist

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    Quote Originally Posted by NegativeS View Post
    Until people start realizing 'huh, maybe I don't need this housing plot to be happy', nothing will change.
    Sometimes sacrifices has to be done for the greater good.
    But not everyone's ready to sacrifice to make a change.
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  7. #177
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    Quote Originally Posted by Supersnow845 View Post
    As one legacy player to another trying to pretend we are anything more than a rounding error these days or more important than any other player is just…….why?

    Hell I’m less useful than a normal player because I pay less of a sub than everyone else because of my legacy discount

    Legacy stopped meaning anything 10 years ago. 14 isn’t a “failed project that never gave up”, that sentiment is dead
    we love this game for a reason, declining population, bad expansion is not going to stop us from playing or loving this game. Until another FF MMO comes out.
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    Quote Originally Posted by NegativeS View Post
    It took WoW having a 50% active player loss within a month of an expansion drop to course correct. Until people start realizing 'huh, maybe I don't need this housing plot to be happy', nothing will change.

    And, y'know. Given the general population's track record, I think it's safe to err on the side of nothing changing.

    Is WoW not still steadily losing players though...
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    Quote Originally Posted by Lilapop View Post
    Is WoW not still steadily losing players though...
    According to what they share to their shareholders, they seem to have somewhat stabilized... though they never fully recovered from the WoD or SL implosions.

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    My outline for a Chemist healer: https://forum.square-enix.com/ffxiv/threads/513527-Healer-Concept-Draft-Chemist

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    It's just a drought numbers will pick up when there's reason for them too. Until then I'm still gonna be playin.
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