Maybe it's time for a casual "strike" if not complete departure.

[Supersnow845]

Can people not do... Intuitive maths even...

Let's award points.
1 point for MSQ
1 point for the MSQ battles (only one because after that it's back to running sastasha and Garuda hard in the rouls.)
1 point normal raid
1 for the Exs
0.5 points for 1 alliance.
1 for savage
1 for ultimate
1 for chaotic

I'm ignoring non battle content except for the MSQ, but let's face it the role quests were at best a 0 also.


Now let's adjust for what was delivered.

So now MSQ gets a -1 frankly because it wasn't just bad it was offensively, no effort bad.
Jeuno gets a 0.25 , because it just wasn't the best.

So,
Ultimate raiders collect 4.25
Savage raiders collect 3.25
Extreme players collect 2.25
Non Extreme players collect 1.25

And god help you if you still find normals and alliance intimidating. (Let's hope those new beast tribes are able to make Game of Thrones look like Dora the Explorer.)

Please tell me you Fing get it now?

So let’s follow your weird logic

Let’s drop chaotic difficulty down to where you would be happy doing chaotic

So now your score goes to a 2.25/3.25 and anyone below you is still at a 1.25/2.25

PROBLEM SOLVED EVERYONE

[Gurgeh]

So let’s follow your weird logic

Let’s drop chaotic difficulty down to where you would be happy doing chaotic

So now your score goes to a 2.25/3.25 and anyone below you is still at a 1.25/2.25

PROBLEM SOLVED EVERYONE

Yes it dropped my edits

1 point for MSQ
1 point for the MSQ battles (only one because after that it's back to running sastasha and Garuda hard in the rouls.)
1 point normal raid
1 for the Exs
0.5 points for 1 alliance.
1 for savage
1 for ultimate
1 for chaotic

I'm ignoring non battle content except for the MSQ, but let's face it the role quests were at best a 0 also.


Now let's adjust for what was delivered.

So now MSQ gets a -1 frankly because it wasn't just bad it was offensively, no effort bad.
Jeuno gets a 0.25 , because it just wasn't the best.

So,
Ultimate raiders collect 5.25
Savage raiders collect 4.25
Extreme players collect 3.25
Non Extreme players collect 2.25

...

Lets not pretend the above is about 'logic' its a illustration tool at best no more. A coloured pen.

(bloody pedants.)

[Supersnow845]

Yes it dropped my edits

1 point for MSQ
1 point for the MSQ battles (only one because after that it's back to running sastasha and Garuda hard in the rouls.)
1 point normal raid
1 for the Exs
0.5 points for 1 alliance.
1 for savage
1 for ultimate
1 for chaotic

I'm ignoring non battle content except for the MSQ, but let's face it the role quests were at best a 0 also.


Now let's adjust for what was delivered.

So now MSQ gets a -1 frankly because it wasn't just bad it was offensively, no effort bad.
Jeuno gets a 0.25 , because it just wasn't the best.

So,
Ultimate raiders collect 5.25
Savage raiders collect 4.25
Extreme players collect 3.25
Non Extreme players collect 2.25

...

Lets not pretend the above is about 'logic' its a illustration tool at best no more. A coloured pen.

(bloody pedants.)

This is still completely meaningless because all it illustrates is that you get the most “bang for your buck” for making 100% of your content a dungeon because then everyone gets 5.25/5.25 points (assuming people play every content level below the highest they play which itself is a flawed assumption)

Wherever you place CAR someone will miss out and won’t get the benefit you get from putting it at a point that you would complete it

Trying to divy up limited content when the problem is lack of content benefits nobody

[Colt47]

This conversation happens because live service games are designed by nature to take advantage of sunk cost to help keep it alive. Most games are more like small activities that don't really punish someone if they aren't in 24/7. Even with a savage reset every other patch being gone for an extended period sort of has this alienating effect, and even so much as taking a short break for a winter vacation can cause people drama. At the end of the day the crafting and gathering mini-game has grown stale and without any kind of casual environment to help broaden the market for items, there isn't much point to it either. Custom deliveries be damned, they just don't matter. Deep Dungeons are basically dead content without a discord, even the older stuff. Maybe shared fates if someone hasn't done them all but I don't blame someone for being lazy or just running out of steam for doing them.

Also, if they keep making more hardmode content they might as well make savage easier and turn it into EX level content so there is enough time in the day for most average players with jobs and 3-4 hours a night a chance here. The 24 man chaotic raid is sort of like being in a live action recreation of Billie Bustups a Thousand Ways to die since it snowballs so badly and it wouldn't be so bad if at least there was some signaling like with Bozja and needing the haste armor for Delibrum, but the intent was that this is their idea for mid-core. Honestly, mid-core is basically "do what alliance raids do with clear signaling, but make the mechanics deadlier", which is what pre nerf TG Cid was. This is still on the hardcore spectrum mostly because of the organizational requirements. They haven't had midcore content in a long time as it usually is something that is fun to do and doable in a night with some learning, but has a lot of attrition to it.