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  1. #51
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    Quote Originally Posted by Jeeqbit View Post
    snippety.
    I'm an 80s baby myself, so I get what you mean.

    I'd like to emphasize that when I say cutscenes, I mean those in which characters stand motionless, move their mouths, and express themselves, such as by nodding.

    Regarding the open world, I believe that these reasons are simply an excuse.

    If the game is not an open world game, why are we all flinging money at SQEnix every month rather than playing a single player game?

    I completely agree with the rest, including the user interface.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Eldtagg View Post
    If the game is not an open world game, why are we all flinging money at SQEnix every month rather than playing a single player game?
    The social interaction - which can occur regardless of if it's open world, such as in a housing area; inside an Alliance Raid or DR; inside a Chaotic raid; inside a Field Operation; inside a large-scale PvP game; inside dungeons, trials and raids.

    There is actually enough open world stuff for social interaction in the open world, such as hunts and boss FATEs which can attract hundreds of people, map parties which have always been a popular content among FCs, and RP.

    Even if an MMORPG is just "a single player game with a chat to discuss it with other players", that can work for some people as well, but as it stands it's more than that for sure.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Batbrat View Post
    Really hate flippant replies like this.
    I'm sorry your favorite game in the entire world for once is rightfully getting criticized, even by one of your biggest local e-celebrities. I know it must be so hard and unconscionable-clearly to the point that the ONLY possible explanation for it HAS to be that the persons rent is due, because why else would anyone say any of this??? It's not like any of it is true, right??
    Soooo when did I defend the game? Go check my profile and my responses to other topic before making your own decision at getting triggered by someone on the internet. Must be fun being you, can't imagine being you in public transport.

    I raised my concern many times and even shittalk the game from time to time I get the chance and hardcore fanboys who play the game because why not? Where does that make me your so proclaimed game defender?

    Zepla doing these videos are money farms, nothing more lol she does not care about you or that you are defending her.
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    Watched it and it's a very well analyzed and thought out video. There are nothing but objective facts. The only ones I see disagree with it are people who refuse to watch it in the first place, because they have an axe to grind with Zepla. Apparently she did the unforgivable sin of interacting with Asmongold and playing Hogwarts Legacy.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Jeeqbit View Post
    The social interaction - which can occur regardless of if it's open world, such as in a housing area; inside an Alliance Raid or DR; inside a Chaotic raid; inside a Field Operation; inside a large-scale PvP game; inside dungeons, trials and raids.

    There is actually enough open world stuff for social interaction in the open world, such as hunts and boss FATEs which can attract hundreds of people, map parties which have always been a popular content among FCs, and RP.

    Even if an MMORPG is just "a single player game with a chat to discuss it with other players", that can work for some people as well, but as it stands it's more than that for sure.
    Theres a lacking amount of open world variety I'd argue. They need to innovate on that front heavily to get people out there without relying on the same old systems. They need to make mobs matter, open the buildings up to make them seem livable and rpable.
    Theres no rare drops, in fact monster drops dont matter at all. The quests dont give exp or matter either.
    Ffxiv is missing quintessential systems that are apart of every other MMO.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Hallarem View Post
    Theres a lacking amount of open world variety I'd argue. They need to innovate on that front heavily to get people out there without relying on the same old systems. They need to make mobs matter, open the buildings up to make them seem livable and rpable.
    Theres no rare drops, in fact monster drops dont matter at all. The quests dont give exp or matter either.
    Ffxiv is missing quintessential systems that are apart of every other MMO.
    Agree. I run FATEs and hunts fairly regularly, and what really stands out to me flying around the open world is how little there is going on. So much beautiful scenery that might as well be wallpaper.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Hallarem View Post
    Theres a lacking amount of open world variety I'd argue. They need to innovate on that front heavily to get people out there without relying on the same old systems. They need to make mobs matter, open the buildings up to make them seem livable and rpable.
    Theres no rare drops, in fact monster drops dont matter at all. The quests dont give exp or matter either.
    Ffxiv is missing quintessential systems that are apart of every other MMO.
    The moment they make mobs matter people will be rushing to the forums complaining about how bot-campers are killing everything.
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    Quote Originally Posted by hydralus View Post
    The moment they make mobs matter people will be rushing to the forums complaining about how bot-campers are killing everything.
    So make the rare/legendary drops zone drops and make hunts matter more by having a personal drop chance for some rare ingredient or item / zone related gear.
    Its better for the gil economy too when some players can gather, others can farm gathering sellables by battlecontent / farming.
    Make daily /weekly optional minigames in each zone? Anything that gets us out of thid norm of the zones just being pretty to look at and nor functional zones.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Mawlzy View Post
    Agree. I run FATEs and hunts fairly regularly, and what really stands out to me flying around the open world is how little there is going on. So much beautiful scenery that might as well be wallpaper.
    I agree, and it's a major shame given how much effort obviously went into creating the Dawntrail zones.

    They are very pretty, yet there are few reasons to return to them.

    FFXIV has a significant drawback for me in that the game does not always succeed in selling the setting. Zones are beautiful set dressing, but the exploration is limited. They feel really gamey, if that makes sense.

    PeluPelu are my favorite tribes this expansion, but even though I exhausted the sidequests while doing the MSQ, I wish I could have learned/spent more time with them.

    Heavensward was the last expansion where I thought the setting felt "real" because that expansion is given enough time to evolve not only the religion, but also Ishgard, the city, sociological statuses, the weather effects on poor and rich and other aspects.

    I absolutely love Thavnair (my character is meant to have been born there), however, like PeluPelu, Thavnair suffers from the same issue outside of Vrtra: surface-level world building and gamey looking landscapes.
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    Quote Originally Posted by hydralus View Post
    The moment they make mobs matter people will be rushing to the forums complaining about how bot-campers are killing everything.
    Bots will do that yes.
    But I mean what is the alternative to that?
    The only thing I could think of is (outside of square doing something against bots) making a unique gathering job for monster mats that can stealth farm them.
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