Please help me understand why/how Chaotic one last time? (because I'm done)

[Jeeqbit]

No, it has an ability that's called like "Doom Arc", but it's just a heavy AoE bleed. I feel like it's meant more as a soft enrage than like a mechanic you're meant to deal with.

Oh that. I have seen that often. The way it casts makes you wonder if it is an enrage, but it turns out it's just trolling and it's a little bleed. It's such a troll cast.

[Cyrtip]

According to what was said during the LL, the original goal was for the difficulty to be roughly Extreme-level, but they overtuned it into Savage territory and just decided to keep it at that instead of revising it.

The unofficial live letter translation mentions "We wanted to match Extreme difficulty at first... but I would say the mechanics themselves are like the first floor of savage, but when you consider doing it as 24 people, it might bump up to the level of a second savage floor"
Zero mention of if that difficulty goal changed, zero mention of what they want the difficulty to be now or if they're satisfied with what they've made. And honestly, looking at everything the devs said about Chaotic aside from that, sounds like it was just PR fluff.

Back before it was even announced, Yoshi-P said “I can’t go into too much detail yet, but I’m trying to create savage [content] that has 24 people" in the Japan Expo interview back in mid-July.

And then in his late August Gamescom interview, "in patch 7.1 there will be the 24-person savage content"

I even tried filtering Google to pre-December 24th results looking for any reporting anywhere mentioning that Chaotic was supposed to be Extreme-level and not Savage, but the only reference I could find to that claim was the unofficial LL translation and articles made about it.

[Sacae]

Oh that. I have seen that often. The way it casts makes you wonder if it is an enrage, but it turns out it's just trolling and it's a little bleed. It's such a troll cast.

It gives him a damage buff as well, and he'll do it multiple times if the party doesn't kill him fast enough after the first cast. Saw it on day 1 when people were wiping to Giga Slash Nightfall.

[Mawlzy]

The unofficial live letter translation mentions "We wanted to match Extreme difficulty at first... but I would say the mechanics themselves are like the first floor of savage, but when you consider doing it as 24 people, it might bump up to the level of a second savage floor"
Zero mention of if that difficulty goal changed, zero mention of what they want the difficulty to be now or if they're satisfied with what they've made. And honestly, looking at everything the devs said about Chaotic aside from that, sounds like it was just PR fluff.

Back before it was even announced, Yoshi-P said “I can’t go into too much detail yet, but I’m trying to create savage [content] that has 24 people" in the Japan Expo interview back in mid-July.

And then in his late August Gamescom interview, "in patch 7.1 there will be the 24-person savage content"

I even tried filtering Google to pre-December 24th results looking for any reporting anywhere mentioning that Chaotic was supposed to be Extreme-level and not Savage, but the only reference I could find to that claim was the unofficial LL translation and articles made about it.

Interesting. Equally, I'm not sure it's better that they intended to produce this garbage.

[Infindox]

The unofficial live letter translation mentions "We wanted to match Extreme difficulty at first... but I would say the mechanics themselves are like the first floor of savage, but when you consider doing it as 24 people, it might bump up to the level of a second savage floor"
Zero mention of if that difficulty goal changed, zero mention of what they want the difficulty to be now or if they're satisfied with what they've made. And honestly, looking at everything the devs said about Chaotic aside from that, sounds like it was just PR fluff.

Back before it was even announced, Yoshi-P said “I can’t go into too much detail yet, but I’m trying to create savage [content] that has 24 people" in the Japan Expo interview back in mid-July.

And then in his late August Gamescom interview, "in patch 7.1 there will be the 24-person savage content"

I even tried filtering Google to pre-December 24th results looking for any reporting anywhere mentioning that Chaotic was supposed to be Extreme-level and not Savage, but the only reference I could find to that claim was the unofficial LL translation and articles made about it.

I remember the comment about "it's like the first or second tier of savage" which, honestly, at the time sounded great because I think a lot of the playerbase is capable of doing content at that level (some exceptions like p10s lol). Still feels though that something failed in creating it.

[Havenchild]

The unofficial live letter translation mentions "We wanted to match Extreme difficulty at first... but I would say the mechanics themselves are like the first floor of savage, but when you consider doing it as 24 people, it might bump up to the level of a second savage floor"
Zero mention of if that difficulty goal changed, zero mention of what they want the difficulty to be now or if they're satisfied with what they've made. And honestly, looking at everything the devs said about Chaotic aside from that, sounds like it was just PR fluff.

Back before it was even announced, Yoshi-P said “I can’t go into too much detail yet, but I’m trying to create savage [content] that has 24 people" in the Japan Expo interview back in mid-July.

And then in his late August Gamescom interview, "in patch 7.1 there will be the 24-person savage content"

I even tried filtering Google to pre-December 24th results looking for any reporting anywhere mentioning that Chaotic was supposed to be Extreme-level and not Savage, but the only reference I could find to that claim was the unofficial LL translation and articles made about it.

This was also my findings. All signs point to the devs alerting players that the difficulty would be Savage difficulty. The community is essentially gaslighting itself off of a "portion" of the unofficial translation.

[Mawlzy]

This was also my findings. All signs point to the devs alerting players that the difficulty would be Savage difficulty. The community is essentially gaslighting itself off of a "portion" of the unofficial translation.

To me this is a side issue. The problem is why are they only making content for this demographic?

[Mortex]

I remember the comment about "it's like the first or second tier of savage" which, honestly, at the time sounded great because I think a lot of the playerbase is capable of doing content at that level (some exceptions like p10s lol). Still feels though that something failed in creating it.

Could be the stupid 24 man body check that gives you per dead person 1 vuln stack and dmg. No clue why you would make 6 tower that can dmg the party 24 times if you fail too fill them( cause the orbs for the tower do dmg and vuln per orb so 2 times if the 2 man tower isn’t soaked with 2 and only one time even if you don’t have 2 people). And also pf raid plan is kinda weird in Eu, like just copy seeds from US and all healer out from an and c so even if a healer dies you can recover and you don’t have the inside stuck after rezz problem.

[Havenchild]

To me this is a side issue. The problem is why are they only making content for this demographic?

Well firstly, this question doesn't specifically matter. They are allowed to make content for whoever they want to.

Now if what you are meaning to say is "Why are they only making content for this demographic that I don't believe deserves it?" Well then, that really is a personal question to ask yourself vs a rhetorical one. People were asking for harder 24 man content over the years and new content exclusive to DT, and they released a 24man EX/ Savage tier fight. Best timing? Dunno
New type of content? Yes

[Eyrilona]

Well firstly, this question doesn't specifically matter. They are allowed to make content for whoever they want to.

Not if they sold the game to a lot of people on the premise that it would contain other things too. At that point, it becomes deceptive advertising, a bait and switch con, and depending on which jurisdiction you're in, fraud.