Please help me understand why/how Chaotic one last time? (because I'm done)

[Voidmage]

Prog liars really stand out in this content - it's always been a thing over the years, like someone joining a Titan EX kill back in ARR, but they've never seen the adds for example, with 8 people you can more easily tell if someone is telling a lie, or they just get lucky and weasel their way through. In this content, given the bonus structure, we're seeing a lot of parties who have cleared accepting P3/enrage players - I don't believe most of the people who join are at enrage prog point, they are hoping for a carry, maybe through either thinking "it's a 24 man, I can just coast through" or just pure ignorance on what the fight actually is.

I agree that prog liars are a big problem here and I think many just do it because they are getting tired of this content and wiping again and again.

BUT

Them being such a huge problem just tells that the difficulty is way overtuned no matter what some may think. For originally being targeted at Ex difficulty SOME prog liars shouldn't be such a huge problem or at worst result in a hard dps check.
Even in some savage fights you can not know what to do after a specific point and yet clear easily.
The other thing is that not everyone is a prog liar just because they mess up sometimes. The mechanics are easy in a vacuum but there so damn many back to back with little room for failure that it is natural that people screw up even those who cleared.

The worst of all is that I start to see toxity forming in PF like... really bad ones to a point where I am short of not joining clear groups anymore because prog parties are just way more chill.

[Kuroka]

The worst of all is that I start to see toxity forming in PF like... really bad ones to a point where I am short of not joining clear groups anymore because prog parties are just way more chill.

This so much... and the 5-15 different parties for basically the same thing, spreading much needed players even thinner... then you wait 30+ min in PF to the point you basically do a few pulls and then gotta go or someone has to leave.

I legit rather play something else when im knowing i got less then 2-3 hours time, because im not gonna waste half of it waiting...

• Maybe got through earlier phases consistently because they had someone carrying them hard ie. a healer spamming shields, or a tank 100% managing the aggro for a co-tank with provoke/shirk/shared mit and adjusting for them because they don't know what provoke/shirk/mit is (I've had to do this for people before).

I see people who join when they aren't ready as just not very considerate.

I did spam so many shields yesterday lol

But this is so true - ive had tanks with 6-7 lightning stacks not realizing they might should switch, with neither of them realizing. Dude its lv 100. Even if you dont tank much, you should have that basic idea.

[Jeeqbit]

But this is so true - ive had tanks with 6-7 lightning stacks not realizing they might should switch, with neither of them realizing. Dude its lv 100. Even if you dont tank much, you should have that basic idea.

To be fair, there are a lot of other mechanics going on while those are building. Sometimes it gets messed up in there if another tanks dies and the boss begins adding more stacks to you.

But it's true generally you could have a healer just carrying with Esuna for Doom, shields, etc. And then they wonder why they can't get far in the next party.

[Kuroka]

But it's true generally you could have a healer just carrying with Esuna for Doom, shields, etc. And then they wonder why they can't get far in the next party.

I am absolutely not suited to heal harder content, yet, with me healing after literal weeks barely healing at all we did better then with the random healers we had before - and thats with my healer being almost 10 ilvl lower then my dps lol

i mean the Esuna is hard, idk if its servertick or me not being used to the change but i - and my wife as well - died several times due esuna being used but not removing doom... once ppl know better its fine, but for progress, that doom is hell...

But just the difference with my shields... i noticed that on the extreme as well, i had several deaths by meteor or when the dimension is switched due not gettin healed at all. its one thing if youre literally out of options but if theres no aoe shield/hot AT ALL and i die, im gettin angry lol
(took me weeks until i could stop using vercure on myself during meteors lol)