Please fix scaling, fights are dying so fast now

[Jeeqbit]

Another thing I've noticed is that the sync doesn't even work correctly with at least spell/skill speed for some reason. I have 2.48 gcd in my gear, but when I sync down it goes to 2.47. I get MORE speed even though my actual stat is lower. It's so weird.

So firstly, the higher your level, your stats divide by a higher number. In other words, they get weaker and you need more Skill Speed to achieve 0.01 speed. However, your overall stat amount syncs down to compensate for this. It's possible the exact discrepancy in this results in it being different.

However, another factor is at play. Materia does not count when synced. Instead, the uncapped secondary stat on your gear gets capped. So if you have 200 Skill Speed and 270 Determination on a piece of gear, the Skill Speed gets bumped up to 270, rather than it syncing your materia.

[Valence]

On top of the lack of duty hard sync for endgame duties besides some dungeons that DO have them (and are already a lot better as a result), there is also some serious creep coming from multiple sources that stack on top of each other, and the more they do the older the content:

- Potency powercreep, as job toolkits gained more and more over time, even if they try to conserve older power levels a little with traits like melee mastery etc.
- HP/defense powercreep, which comes from various changes they did like the removal of belts, main stat changes on tanks, removal of primary stat materia, etc. For example if you go in MILNE in older savage fights in SB or whatever, you'll somewhat massively overtake the older HP values of their time.
- Sync stat powercreep, since level sync progressively fills up substats until they reach their max values the higher the difference of the content ilvl with your real item level.
- The battle system has changed a great deal. A lvl60 endgame duty in HW had you with full 3 hotbars of skills (and more complicated jobs and party team play than what we have today at max lvl) for example. Older duties feel easier as a result because the onus was not completely geared toward encounter mechanics alone.

[Rebeccubus]

So firstly, the higher your level, your stats divide by a higher number. In other words, they get weaker and you need more Skill Speed to achieve 0.01 speed. However, your overall stat amount syncs down to compensate for this. It's possible the exact discrepancy in this results in it being different.

However, another factor is at play. Materia does not count when synced. Instead, the uncapped secondary stat on your gear gets capped. So if you have 200 Skill Speed and 270 Determination on a piece of gear, the Skill Speed gets bumped up to 270, rather than it syncing your materia.

Ohhhhh, that makes a LOT of sense, thank you.

[Rebeccubus]

On top of the lack of duty hard sync for endgame duties besides some dungeons that DO have them (and are already a lot better as a result), there is also some serious creep coming from multiple sources that stack on top of each other, and the more they do the older the content:

- Potency powercreep, as job toolkits gained more and more over time, even if they try to conserve older power levels a little with traits like melee mastery etc.
- HP/defense powercreep, which comes from various changes they did like the removal of belts, main stat changes on tanks, removal of primary stat materia, etc. For example if you go in MILNE in older savage fights in SB or whatever, you'll somewhat massively overtake the older HP values of their time.
- Sync stat powercreep, since level sync progressively fills up substats until they reach their max values the higher the difference of the content ilvl with your real item level.
- The battle system has changed a great deal. A lvl60 endgame duty in HW had you with full 3 hotbars of skills (and more complicated jobs and party team play than what we have today at max lvl) for example. Older duties feel easier as a result because the onus was not completely geared toward encounter mechanics alone.

Honestly this is a really good breakdown of where the issues are coming from, thank you. Put it in better words than I could manage. The HP/Defense creep hurts me the most honestly and Im not even a healer main. Its so boring when stuff does so little damage in older content.

[Kohashi]

Party-> Party Finder -> Dungeon of choice -> Min ilvl No echo (MINE). Additionally, you can exclude tank/ healer + any other class that has rez/heal

Enjoy.

[Rebeccubus]

Party-> Party Finder -> Dungeon of choice -> Min ilvl No echo (MINE). Additionally, you can exclude tank/ healer + any other class that has rez/heal

Enjoy.

This does not help with the issue because even with minilvl we are often still much stronger than in the past, as others have mentioned. Also, the speed at which stuff is being cleared should not be the DEFAULT. New players use duty finder to get into new content, and they should get to experience the fight as was intended originally through that. You should not have to go further out of your way to get the intended experience, it should be the opposite. Party finder should be where you go to get a faster clear, not duty finder.

[Kohashi]

This does not help with the issue because even with minilvl we are often still much stronger than in the past, as others have mentioned. Also, the speed at which stuff is being cleared should not be the DEFAULT. New players use duty finder to get into new content, and they should get to experience the fight as was intended originally through that. You should not have to go further out of your way to get the intended experience, it should be the opposite. Party finder should be where you go to get a faster clear, not duty finder.

Do you understand how min ilvl works or are you just talking randomly? Min ilvl is the lowest ilvl required to enter the dungeon. If the fight itself is easy to begin with scaling it will not fix the issue.

[Supersnow845]

Do you understand how min ilvl works or are you just talking randomly? Min ilvl is the lowest ilvl required to enter the dungeon. If the fight itself is easy to begin with scaling it will not fix the issue.

No it’s you who don’t understand half the problem

Content is being outscaled in 2 ways

We ilvl bloat it and we damage bloat it

The average PPS of a DPS 1-2-3 is almost 3* what it was in ARR. so even if you MINE ARR content you are still doing near 3* as much damage as the content was designed around you doing

You need to curb ILVL bloat but you also need to tone down low level potencies

[Akephalos]

I think being able to sync down your level and do older fights is one of the greatest features this game has, but it really does need to be reviewed and updated. Whenever I happen to queue into a climactic story fight or just one that used to be fun to experience with a sprout player and I just see the boss's HP bar melting, it's gives off a disappointing feeling knowing that said new player is essentially getting a lesser experience.

[ThaCa]

I think this issue has just gotten progressively worse since like Stormblood(?). Lower level skills just have insane potency bloat to compensate for less overall useable skills compared to before and the combat encounters have neither adjusted health nor item level sync which results in most of the game just being complete cakewalk of skipping mechanics or just straight up ignoring them since they are just non-threatening at this point.

It's all massive waste of content.