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  1. #81
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    Quote Originally Posted by Absurdity View Post
    Which actually doesn't make it any better.
    She gets kidnapped by Bakool Ja Ja and 30 minutes later beats him easily with a literal random shounen power up.
    It was much longer than 30 minutes by any metric. It sounds like you've skipped the cutscenes. Otherwise you would remember the time the WoL was knocked unconscious by a scullery MAID with a mug of ALE, then one patch later somehow DEFEATED the dreadwyrm NIDHOGG in combat. Omg what's with this power-scaling???
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  2. #82
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    Quote Originally Posted by Exmo View Post
    It was much longer than 30 minutes by any metric. It sounds like you've skipped the cutscenes. Otherwise you would remember the time the WoL was knocked unconscious by a scullery MAID with a mug of ALE, then one patch later somehow DEFEATED the dreadwyrm NIDHOGG in combat. Omg what's with this power-scaling???
    1. The fight with Bakool Ja Ja was in 2 half-areas after the kidnapping (Southern Urqopacha, northern Yak T'el). Not much time had passed, even in universe.
    2. The WoL was poisoned/drugged, not knocked unconscious by a maid wielding a mug, and had already been a seasoned god killing adventurer at that point.
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    RIP Viper 28/06/2024 - 30/07/2024. It was a fun month.

  3. #83
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    Quote Originally Posted by Astronema View Post
    Well when the current armor sets look like what was worn by thugs robbing a CVS in NYC I would say so ... Urban soulless monoculture and dei is taking over the game
    I couldn't have said it better myself. Let's just hope they realised DEI is actually bad for the game and not a good thing. Don't get me started on the overall voice acting quality this expansion (not even including Wuk Lamat)

    Hey maybe Yoshi P realises DEI actually kills a game. Let's hope he does.
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    Last edited by BunnyReaper; 12-18-2024 at 02:18 AM.

  4. #84
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    Meh, I kind of agree. I'm mainly talking about DT here but the overall voice acting is terrible (without even including Wuk Lamat), the story was incredibly forgettable. And now the 24 man drops BIS? Personally I don't like that but the last point might just be me.
    DT seems to be full of DEI aswell
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    Last edited by BunnyReaper; 12-18-2024 at 02:19 AM.

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  6. #85
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    Endris Caemwynn
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    Quote Originally Posted by Zukkii View Post
    The simple thing that needed to happen was that we went into Tural by ourselves as an honest-to-god adventurer and explore that new world piece by piece. One expansion we explored Yok Tural, the next Xak Tural, while the story is building up to Sphene and Alexandria. This would make Wuk Lamat an even more endearing character as we would really see her improve under our tutelage.


    But.. That's just my 2 cents.
    If Alexandria had to be a thing, it should have been a proper expedition to the 9th, not most of the shard being obliterated by lightning and the last bastion of life being grafted onto Xak Tural. We also didn't need yet another dungeon that's just playing through a recap of the fall of a civilization.
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  7. #86
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    Zephyr Menodora
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    Quote Originally Posted by Daralii View Post
    If Alexandria had to be a thing, it should have been a proper expedition to the 9th, not most of the shard being obliterated by lightning and the last bastion of life being grafted onto Xak Tural. We also didn't need yet another dungeon that's just playing through a recap of the fall of a civilization.
    I agree on the first point. I liked the dungeon so will disagree there. But I found what little we got of proper Alexandria to be more interesting than most of Tural.
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  8. #87
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    The new world (xak tural / yok tural) just feels kind of, solved? Like it speed runned through the discovery and development phases of a continent that has largely been cut off from much of the world because of natural hazards. Especially what with the dome and the "Okay, so in addition to fantasy South American and North America, we are going to do some time dilation 30 years into the future to introduce a cyberpunk society to a continent you barely got connected to".

    Like I can only imagine what weirdness that Meracydia is going to be like if this is how the new world is. At most I am expecting one desert zone that is kind of what I imagine Meracydia to be like, such as the outback. Then a bunch of other zones that might or may not fit. Then with one endgame zone, the last zone of the msq, that is meant to be a rehash in some manner to Living Memory or Ultima Thule or Amaurot or Azys Lla. I can't imagine Meracydia being underdeveloped or cut off from the rest of the world.
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  9. #88
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    Quote Originally Posted by Chasingstars View Post
    The new world (xak tural / yok tural) just feels kind of, solved? Like it speed runned through the discovery and development phases of a continent that has largely been cut off from much of the world because of natural hazards. Especially what with the dome and the "Okay, so in addition to fantasy South American and North America, we are going to do some time dilation 30 years into the future to introduce a cyberpunk society to a continent you barely got connected to".

    Like I can only imagine what weirdness that Meracydia is going to be like if this is how the new world is. At most I am expecting one desert zone that is kind of what I imagine Meracydia to be like, such as the outback. Then a bunch of other zones that might or may not fit. Then with one endgame zone, the last zone of the msq, that is meant to be a rehash in some manner to Living Memory or Ultima Thule or Amaurot or Azys Lla. I can't imagine Meracydia being underdeveloped or cut off from the rest of the world.
    I don't think there's any lore on Meracydia more recent than Allag's invasion.
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  10. #89
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    Quote Originally Posted by Daralii View Post
    I don't think there's any lore on Meracydia more recent than Allag's invasion.
    "Nearly the entire continent being rendered a wasteland. While some areas remain uninhabitable even today, those which have been repopulated remain recluse and very rarely welcome contact with the civilizations of the northern hemisphere, often times attacking any who approach, whether it be by sea or by air." The art associated with Meracydia from the partial quote I gave is a desert.

    So my apologies, I mispoke, it is largely cut off, but because the locals are hostile. What this means on an expansion there could be anyones guess. Maybe Garlemald style where the locals are slow to warm up to you. But I can't imagine they would make it a whole expansion. Maybe as one of two continents you visit.
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  11. #90
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    Barwara Sasna
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    DT is maybe not as terrible as everyone makes it out to be but its for sure a far cry from the more successful expansions such as HW and SHB, mostly because there’s so much less at stake, so much less heart in the writing, and because our WoL isn’t the main focus of the story anymore. And the MSQ being lacklustre doesn’t help easily distract from all the other flaws the game has, which makes all of it more jarring… SE has lots of slack to pick up. :/
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