FFXIV has lost it's heart

[Exmo]

Estinian having a moment against Nidhogg was completely earned in his story as the Azure Dragoon. Lyse one-shotting what? A trash mob? Who cares. Whatever mob she killed was such a non-issue I don't even know what your referencing.

Wuk's moments just felt unearned and forced. Along with her overpowering the entire story, many of us just had enough of her and that was a final straw.

Ok. I don't think Wuk Lamat's moment was unearned. I think it was earned through the MSQ of Dawntrail, which went to great lengths to develop her character and show how she grows.

[ZephyrMenodora]

Ok. I don't think Wuk Lamat's moment was unearned. I think it was earned through the MSQ of Dawntrail, which went to great lengths to develop her character and show how she grows.

Sure.... walking around her own country and having the Scions solve almost all of her problems, or just dumb-lucking her way into a solution really feels earned. Certainly she should be able to find interdimensional rifts with her dumb luck and then out-dps a raid team by vast margins for ???? reasons. She sure should be more powerful than WoL's with 10 years of star-saving experience who felled the Gods and the Endsinger.

[Exmo]

Sure.... walking around her own country and having the Scions solve almost all of her problems, or just dumb-lucking her way into a solution really feels earned. Certainly she should be able to find interdimensional rifts with her dumb luck and then out-dps a raid team by vast margins for ???? reasons. She sure should be more powerful than WoL's with 10 years of star-saving experience who felled the Gods and the Endsinger.

Again, there are instances throughout the game of NPCs dealing more damage than the players' party, so it's weird to focus on only this one as egregious.

Regarding the scions taking her around her country and solving all her problems... That's not what happened. There's a fair spread of each character in the group collaborating on the solution. For example, in the Mamool Ja village, her well-substantiated resistance to the initial trial lead to her and friends investigating the townsfolk's problems and together finding a solution. She acted as the driver, and her people-focused approach brought together others from different disciplines.

[xbahax92]

Again, there are instances throughout the game of NPCs dealing more damage than the players' party, so it's weird to focus on only this one as egregious.

Mhm, that's why the very same girl also gets kidnapped by a random weak NPC. But it would be obviously egregious to think about it.

[Exmo]

Um, that is literally shonen lol

it's ok you can like wuk, i also like yshtola despite her being a plank of wood of a character, no need to lie about her being interesting or anything

As I said elsewhere, that criteria applies to a huge amount of non-shonen characters all across fiction, so that criteria is useless. Or do you think everything with feathers is a duck?

Mhm, that's why the very same girl also gets kidnapped by a random weak NPC. But it would be obviously egregious to think about it.

She got kidnapped off screen, presumably by BKJJ. You imagined she got kidnapped by a nobody and then you got mad at your imagination.

[Absurdity]

She got kidnapped off screen, presumably by BKJJ. You imagined she got kidnapped by a nobody and then you got mad at your imagination.

Which actually doesn't make it any better.
She gets kidnapped by Bakool Ja Ja and 30 minutes later beats him easily with a literal random shounen power up.

[Exmo]

Which actually doesn't make it any better.
She gets kidnapped by Bakool Ja Ja and 30 minutes later beats him easily with a literal random shounen power up.

It was much longer than 30 minutes by any metric. It sounds like you've skipped the cutscenes. Otherwise you would remember the time the WoL was knocked unconscious by a scullery MAID with a mug of ALE, then one patch later somehow DEFEATED the dreadwyrm NIDHOGG in combat. Omg what's with this power-scaling???