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  1. #11
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    Andreas Cestelle
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    Quote Originally Posted by DPZ2 View Post
    WoW Bard would not be from FFXIV, it reads more like Minstrel in Lord of the Rings Online. Bard in LotRO was more of a Shouter than a Player of music. It may have gotten better over the last 5 years. I've only seen footage on Youtube after 2020.

    Astrologian is also not from FFXIV, although it bears the same name. It is definitely not a healer class. It's more like that end boss in WoW that was going to 'reset' Azeroth and has more in common with the Celestial Steed than Astrologian in this game.

    Microsoft/Blizzard has a number of jobs described in the video (Tinker is like the Engineer profession, except with mechs instead of exploding sheep). Because of this, I wouldn't say that Blizzard/Microsoft is going for anyone's throat. At best they might hope that name recognition might spike some interest, at least until you find out the particulars and go "um, no".
    The WOW class being more a time mage is basically what astrologian used to be

    If you made HW/SB AST into a DPS instead of a healer it would basically be a time mage
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    As a healer main in this game for nigh on 14 years all I can say is that I’m tired. My role has been eroded of complexity and expression for 3 expansions. I’ve watched the tanks do my role for me for 2 expansions and my feedback and critiques continue to fall on deaf ears.

    I have no idea who modern healers are designed for but I know now it’s not me. This is the first expansion I’m truly considering dropping the healer role and not returning, so if that was the goal- congratulations I guess

  2. #12
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    Dal S'ta
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    Quote Originally Posted by Supersnow845 View Post
    The WOW class being more a time mage is basically what astrologian used to be

    If you made HW/SB AST into a DPS instead of a healer it would basically be a time mage
    Sure thing. But AST was designed in HW to be a healer, not a DPS caster. Go figure.
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    tl;dw: Blizzard sent players a survey floating ideas for potential future classes, bard and something astrological among them. Don't get rused into wasting time on a near 16 minute video from Bellular.
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  4. #14
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    Alinne Seamont
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    Quote Originally Posted by DPZ2 View Post
    Sure thing. But AST was designed in HW to be a healer, not a DPS caster. Go figure.
    Tomato, tomahto. It's extremely close to the FFXIV description, I'm sure it isn't coincidental.

    Not that I care, although I give WOW its due for being the foundation and/or inspiring many other games, I never played more than 2 weeks of WOW, that was enough for me.
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  5. #15
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    Quote Originally Posted by Dorito_Burrito View Post
    tl;dw: Blizzard sent players a survey floating ideas for potential future classes, bard and something astrological among them. Don't get rused into wasting time on a near 16 minute video from Bellular.
    Yea as someone who plays both games i recommend not watching his stuff. he is the definition of clickbait youtuber
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  6. #16
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    Elmind Exilus
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    they are really coming in for FFXIV's throat aren't they. 2 jobs that will appeal to ff players and the infamous player housing. i think thats it for FF tbh.
    Can we quote this for posterity in 10 years?
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    Quote Originally Posted by Striker44 View Post
    Can we quote this for posterity in 10 years?
    Until wow adds cat girls it'll always be my 2nd favorite mmo
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    Quote Originally Posted by sindriiisgaming View Post
    they are really coming in for FFXIV's throat aren't they. 2 jobs that will appeal to ff players and the infamous player housing. i think thats it for FF tbh. if they cant innovate., they're done for. now im aware theres speculation its clickbait, but even if it is. the plyer housing alone just might finish XIV off. people are no longer excited for ff. theyre trapped and endlessly waiting the next best thing. eventually they'll find it and they'll leave. or they'll be stuck in this games familiarity forever, and be all alone in there bubble.


    if you never give something a chance to get better. its trapped in the past, unable to grow improve or change. makes me wonder if the game is the one trapped in the past at that point



    a company isnt a person. its a product producer. and you shouldn't deny yourself the chance to enjoy a product because of past company decisions. in the end you're the one who looses out by forging paper alliances. if wow looks good. your sub isn't sinful to give to them. be proud that you enjoy a product they make. and that is ll the validation you will ever need
    More so. Two of the other jobs are basically dragoon and machinist just not in name.
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  9. #19
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    Mao Xifeng
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    Quote Originally Posted by Reimmi View Post
    Until wow adds cat girls it'll always be my 2nd favorite mmo
    WoW has Dragons so is now Mao favorites game agains. Mao likes killing opponents by barfings all over thems.
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  10. #20
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    Nia Niyah
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    Quote Originally Posted by Eraden View Post
    WoW has Dragons so is now Mao favorites game agains. Mao likes killing opponents by barfings all over thems.
    it's too bad those dragons are so ugly
    i'd have been down for drakonids but instead we got oblivion argonians
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