How not to be a mentor

[Larirawiel]

Sometimes you have to. I already saw too many paper tanks who lost 1/3 of their health per second.




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[IOwn92FCHouses]

Sometimes you have to. I already saw too many paper tanks who lost 1/3 of their health per second.




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I haven't had to use a GCD heal in an expert dungeon in 3 years. Dungeons are a joke.

Except on WHM, but Lillies are damage GCDs in disguise so they don't count.

[ZephyrMenodora]

Sometimes you have to. I already saw too many paper tanks who lost 1/3 of their health per second.




Cheers

This. There are many times I have to resort to gcd heals in roulettes, and anyone who claims never to have experienced must never or rarely heal.

At level 100 you have to be called out.

No, it really doesn't need to be called out. OP stated they DPS as they felt comfortable. That's good enough for your basic roulette. No need to sit and nitpick and badger some random every roulette when they don't press everything to your liking.

[IOwn92FCHouses]

This. There are many times I have to resort to gcd heals in roulettes, and anyone who claims never to have experienced must never or rarely heal.

As someone who literally just said this, skill issue. Expert dungeon mobs don't do enough damage to outdo a general rotation of oGCDs and CDs, and bosses don't output enough damage to threaten the tank. You have more than enough resources to handle people standing in bad, especially with how overloaded healer kits are now.

As said, needing to GCD heal an expert is a skill issue.

[ZephyrMenodora]

As someone who literally just said this, skill issue. Expert dungeon mobs don't do enough damage to outdo a general rotation of oGCDs and CDs, and bosses don't output enough damage to threaten the tank. You have more than enough resources to handle people standing in bad, especially with how overloaded healer kits are now.

As said, needing to GCD heal an expert is a skill issue.

A skill issue you may have no control over, such as the quality of your tank. And DPS I suppose, if they are very slow and don't burst things down quickly.

[Kohashi]

A skill issue you may have no control over, such as the quality of your tank. And DPS I suppose, if they are very slow and don't burst things down quickly.

I highly doubt that was the case otherwise the entire discussion wouldn't exist. I usually play DPS and healer in expert dungeons and while I do heal, it's not like I stay there spamming it. There are very rare occasions when there is an inexperienced or badly geared tank that requires babysitting.

EDIT: Never mind... I just saw they did 0 damage. I don't think I ever saw anyone doing 0 dps, not even a damn dot. The audacity to play the victim.

[ZephyrMenodora]

EDIT: Never mind... I just saw they did 0 damage. I don't think I ever saw anyone doing 0 dps, not even a damn dot. The audacity to play the victim.

In this situation, complaining about a level 100 "wait for something to heal and otherwise do nothing" player is understandable.

I took their fact pattern at face value but it turns out it just wasn't honest at all.

[Asako]

No, it really doesn't need to be called out. OP stated they DPS as they felt comfortable. That's good enough for your basic roulette. No need to sit and nitpick and badger some random every roulette when they don't press everything to your liking.

Apparently it doesn't need calling out lads. OP barely heals, does 0 dps and wastes everyones time, then has the audacity to whine about it. This isn't a single player game, they are also responisble for the time wasted of other players. No one is saying they should give you dogs abuse or anything nor are they asking them to absolute superstars but at least make an effort and they should at least be expected to take some criticism when this happens. Truth be told I'd have just kicked them from the instance if I seen them AFK without a valid reason.

[ZephyrMenodora]

Apparently it doesn't need calling out lads. OP barely heals, does 0 dps and wastes everyones time, then has the audacity to whine about it. This isn't a single player game, they are also responisble for the time wasted of other players. No one is saying they should give you dogs abuse or anything nor are they asking them to absolute superstars but at least make an effort and they should at least be expected to take some criticism when this happens. Truth be told I'd have just kicked them from the instance if I seen them AFK without a valid reason.

They didn't AFK and they did DPS. Learn to read.

So if you aren’t “terminally on the forums optimising gameplay” you should be grateful for the offered feedback on how to improve as a healer. OP’s stance is basically “since I’m not sandbagging advice is invalid”

If you are using holy but using cure 2 over solace that’s a point a mentor can and should point out. If your response is “well yes but it’s not like I’m a heal bot” that’s not really the mentors fault especially when you have the added circumstances of the fact that like the person you replied to said for an even semi competent tank a healer isn’t even needed. While this was obviously done to reduce healer stress it instead just makes people want them to perform harder because otherwise they are wasting a party slot so to speak

No, just because someone gives you advice doesn't mean you have accept it and immediately do whatever a mentor tells you what to do. This isn't your static. This is a roulette. Not many people want to log in to watch some petty person watch every cast they do and criticize over and over in a dumb roulette. If the game is as easy as everyone states here, then who cares if you lose some healer DPS while meanwhile no one is dying because they are being healed and the Healer is still DPSing when they feel it's safe to do so.

It's fine if the mentor makes a point to help someone improve. Then...let it go. Stop bothering random people in roulettes. If they want your advice, fine. If not, let it go. These dungeons only take 15 minutes anyway. Do something better with your energy then be annoying.

Someone should certainly not have to feel "grateful" for someone who acts like this. And you know what? Sometimes I Medica 3 when I could have used a Lily because it's a pretty skill, it makes me happy to use it, and it's my free time. Sorry if I lost 300 healer DPS out of it. Big whoop. My enjoyment means more to me and it's not like the dungeon will fail.

[Supersnow845]

They didn't AFK and they did DPS. Learn to read.



No, just because someone gives you advice doesn't mean you have accept it and immediately do whatever a mentor tells you what to do. This isn't your static. This is a roulette. Not many people want to log in to watch some petty person watch every cast they do and criticize over and over in a dumb roulette. If the game is as easy as everyone states here, then who cares if you lose some healer DPS while meanwhile no one is dying because they are being healed and the Healer is still DPSing when they feel it's safe to do so.

It's fine if the mentor makes a point to help someone improve. Then...let it go. Stop bothering random people in roulettes. If they want your advice, fine. If not, let it go. These dungeons only take 15 minutes anyway. Do something better with your energy then be annoying.

You don’t have to listen to their advice. But if they are offering legit advice and you aren’t listening to it then you don’t get to also come to the forums and whine about mentors being mean to you