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    Crafoutis Lesalia
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    'Some WOL's are always trying to ice stake uphill.'

    There are plenty of servers with tons of empty plots.

    As your original post outlined, you have options, you just don't want to take them:

    - Option 1: Relinquish your current home to free up space and leverage you and your entire FC's bidding capacity to bid on the now-free plot. You can get yourself a good 50, 60, 70, even 80% chance at winning. Your FC has people right? Give them all bidding rights and own the lottery due to sheer volume.

    - Option 2: Go to a server where empty plots are still in absolute abundance. Transfers aren't that big a deal, if the house is that important to you, then transfer. If you say "well, community is more important to me than a house", then congratulations, you've discovered that you have something you value more than a house. "but we don't want to spend money on a transfer"- you might say, which leads us into:

    - Option 3: Join a Free Company that has a house.

    - Option 4: Be at peace not having a Free Company house.

    - Option 5: Keep trying your hand at the lotto as they pop up.

    Edit: Just checked Dynamis datacenter and HOLY GARBANZO BEANS, that's a LOT of available houses!
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    Last edited by Crafoutis; 12-04-2024 at 12:33 AM. Reason: Wow, that's a lot of available houses
    WAR don't get changes because they don't need changes. They only need more enemies to cleave.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Crafoutis View Post
    - Option 1: Relinquish your current home to free up space and leverage you and your entire FC's bidding capacity to bid on the now-free plot. You can get yourself a good 50, 60, 70, even 80% chance at winning. Your FC has people right? Give them all bidding rights and own the lottery due to sheer volume.
    50% chance? To win something I already own?

    As a long time MMO player, trusting randoms with something valuable of yours in-game is tantamount to virtual suicide. At worst, someone you don't know sees the open plot and wins the lottery, and now you're out of all the gil you spent on the stupid thing in the first place. Or, actually, even worse, an FC mate gets your plot then decides he wants to keep it for himself. I've seen it happen in this game and others.

    Quote Originally Posted by Crafoutis View Post
    - Option 2: Go to a server where empty plots are still in absolute abundance. Transfers aren't that big a deal, if the house is that important to you, then transfer. If you say "well, community is more important to me than a house"
    "Just transfer, bro!"

    /continued aether DC travel lock
    /abysmal dynamis queues
    /nonexistant dynamis pf
    /dynamis tax on mb
    /bot and phish infestation



    Quote Originally Posted by Crafoutis View Post
    then congratulations, you've discovered that you have something you value more than a house.
    mfw housing mains on the forum say i cant participate in the system because i want to have a decent game experience

    ????

    If only there was a solution to this system that didn't involve sacrificing a ton of sunk cost and playability...

    But nah, Yoshi 'likes the wards' so I guess we eat what we're served.
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    Quote Originally Posted by NegativeS View Post
    As a long time MMO player, trusting randoms with something valuable of yours in-game is tantamount to virtual suicide. At worst, someone you don't know sees the open plot and wins the lottery, and now you're out of all the gil you spent on the stupid thing in the first place. Or, actually, even worse, an FC mate gets your plot then decides he wants to keep it for himself. I've seen it happen in this game and others.
    That's not how FC plot ownership works. FC members bidding on an FC plot wins the house for the FC, not for an individual player.

    Please tell me more about how uninformed you are about the systems you're trying to speak with such authority about. The OP described the hypothetical in which they relinquish their private home for the purposes of freeing up the plot in order to bid on it via FC bidding. Follow the subject.
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    WAR don't get changes because they don't need changes. They only need more enemies to cleave.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Crafoutis View Post
    That's not how FC plot ownership works. FC members bidding on an FC plot wins the house for the FC, not for an individual player.

    Please tell me more about how uninformed you are about the systems you're trying to speak with such authority about. The OP described the hypothetical in which they relinquish their private home for the purposes of freeing up the plot in order to bid on it via FC bidding. Follow the subject.
    You'll have to excuse me for not having a doctorate in the game system that's almost impossible to enter. But even so, losing all that gil by giving up your existing assets is an awful solution when they could just... make the system suck less.
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    My outline for a Chemist healer: https://forum.square-enix.com/ffxiv/threads/513527-Healer-Concept-Draft-Chemist

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    You're literally part of a crafting guild, I'd assume you are quite familiar with how meaningless Gil is.

    I'm sitting on more gil than I can spend, and I'm casual. You're on Seraph, you have housing plots coming out your ears, I don't even know what you're referencing when you talk about housing being as difficult as you describe to get into.

    There are 11 houses with 0 bids on your server that are accepting entries -right now-, and the rest have very low quantities.

    And lastly: if the money for a house is going to financially destroy your account, perhaps a house shouldn't be your priority.
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    Last edited by Crafoutis; 12-04-2024 at 03:21 AM.
    WAR don't get changes because they don't need changes. They only need more enemies to cleave.

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    Quote Originally Posted by JimCasey_RF6 View Post
    I wear my golden handcuffs with pride, even going so far as to clean and polish them every week.
    Same here, I worked very hard for both my personal mansions and I'm happy with the results of moving to Seraph/Dynamis when it first came out :3




    Quote Originally Posted by NegativeS View Post
    50% chance? To win something I already own?

    As a long time MMO player, trusting randoms with something valuable of yours in-game is tantamount to virtual suicide. At worst, someone you don't know sees the open plot and wins the lottery, and now you're out of all the gil you spent on the stupid thing in the first place. Or, actually, even worse, an FC mate gets your plot then decides he wants to keep it for himself. I've seen it happen in this game and others.



    "Just transfer, bro!"

    /continued aether DC travel lock
    /abysmal dynamis queues
    /nonexistant dynamis pf
    /dynamis tax on mb
    /bot and phish infestation





    mfw housing mains on the forum say i cant participate in the system because i want to have a decent game experience

    ????

    If only there was a solution to this system that didn't involve sacrificing a ton of sunk cost and playability...

    But nah, Yoshi 'likes the wards' so I guess we eat what we're served.

    You're poorly informed if you think that's how the lotto system works when bidding on plot. FC members bid for the FC and FC master is still the FC master despite another FC member winning the bid. You also get your full amount of Gil returned if you lost the lotto, where did you get that nonsense of losing your Gil from??? Have you even bid on a plot at all and maybe you forgot to go to the placard to get your refund????? Are you a recent arrival to Seraph too?
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    Last edited by Rinoa_353; 12-04-2024 at 03:08 AM.

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    I moved from Seraph to Golem so I could finally get a large house, it is crazy to see so many still left with 0 bids as this cycle is about to end.

    I got the plot I always wanted, no competition.

    Not saying everyone should do as I did, but now my housing-woes are over.
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    Quote Originally Posted by NegativeS View Post
    I am wholly in support of adding more (or instanced) housing. I was on Seraph when it was still new and still had to fight others to get a house. A small. In the Goblet.
    The problem is that even they add more plots, they're just be taken by phantom FC that are there for submarines farm. As long as SE doesn't deal with that, it's dead.
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  9. #19
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    Quote Originally Posted by NegativeS View Post
    I am wholly in support of adding more (or instanced) housing. I was on Seraph when it was still new and still had to fight others to get a house. A small. In the Goblet.
    There are multiple Goblet Smalls on Seraph with 0 bids right now.
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    WAR don't get changes because they don't need changes. They only need more enemies to cleave.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Crafoutis View Post
    There are multiple Goblet Smalls on Seraph with 0 bids right now.
    It's clearly because the phantom fcs think Seraph has cooties. Those nasty sub farmers won't touch them!
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