Steam, LB and Quarterly Estimate Chart

[Banriikku]

This Data shows engament with the product for specific platforms and time frames. Not if the game declines or not. You know data and analytics - why do you still post this WITH THAT HEADLINE?
Ufff, you lost some respect here. Way too many qustions are open to use this for anything then "how many accounts logged" not even people or paying customer and so forth.
Also "dying" for an MMO is slow and not fast. Its a slow decay and it begins with the money aka players that pay and the increase of free to play players and bots.
Nothing of the sort can be proven or disproven with the data presented. Also the data is not "clean".
I dislike those "doomsayers" as much as you do but this is not a good way to talk about the topic or with those people.

My opinion:
Is FF14 dying ? No, but it is in a downward trend.
Can you prove that ? No, i can only say in my "bubble" Dt was disliked to the point of un-subbing.
But that is not proving anything! Correct, its an opinion and valid as any others.

Just a random thought: The game is not you and so the sucess or failure of it does not make you less or more of a person. The most fun is with others - take them and play other games with them.

[Jeeqbit]

This Data shows engament with the product for specific platforms and time frames. Not if the game declines or not.

While it is true it is "just for specific time frames" (ie. a data point taken in isolation could just be people taking a break), the point of the graph is to show the long-term trends and whether, over the long term, it increases or declines. In other words, it DOES show if the game declines or not.

Also "dying" for an MMO is slow and not fast.

True, which is why this chart shows the long-term trends for the last 10 years... to see if it has "slowly" declined or "slowly" grown.

Often, people will point to a data source and say it is flawed for one reason or another. But if you have multiple sources of data, measuring in different ways, all showing similar trendlines, it reinforces the credibility of the trendlines. Trendlines like this are reflected on various popular FFXIV websites and discord servers, where the activity obviously spikes after major patches.

[Banriikku]

You missunderstood me. I mean the data can not show what you said it would not because of the source (it is still problematic in a sense) but because the data do not provide the proof for "decline or no decline" of the game. This data can not tell us this. With this data you can answer : engagement for point in time or timeframe, accounts logged in for platforms, comparability for engagement on platform and overtime,

But the question is "decline or not" and this cant be told with the data you posted. Thats it.
We would need : cost per month, income per month/quarter, accounts total/payed and then how often payed aka recurring or not, budget, and so forth.
We would need to know how much paying customer and how many free to play customer are needed to maintian this game AND then we could start with "decline or not". We do not even have a baseline nor can we do a serious estimate. Based on earnings SE is on a loosing trend but has still a lot of cash/cashflow to maintain business for a couple of years. But even with the earnings report we cant talk about FF14 isolated.

But regarding the topic is "FF14 dying" this does not mean "money" because even the trash of tash makes money (remember money does not equal good - cocain anyone?) but is the game down the drain aka shit (quality).
FF14 has a lot of bad spots now that needs fixing but this game will make money even if they go full kupo-nuts on the mogstation and pay to win garbage. In that time it will earn money, sure less and less but it will do until shout down.

To make it short, the assumption was faulty, the premise was wrong and the data provided are the answer to a topic almost unrelated to the question itself. As i said the game is far from actual dying but in good spot or okay ? I dont think so.

[Axxion]

You missunderstood me. I mean the data can not show what you said it would not because of the source (it is still problematic in a sense) but because the data do not provide the proof for "decline or no decline" of the game. This data can not tell us this. With this data you can answer : engagement for point in time or timeframe, accounts logged in for platforms, comparability for engagement on platform and overtime,

But the question is "decline or not" and this cant be told with the data you posted. Thats it.
We would need : cost per month, income per month/quarter, accounts total/payed and then how often payed aka recurring or not, budget, and so forth.
We would need to know how much paying customer and how many free to play customer are needed to maintian this game AND then we could start with "decline or not". We do not even have a baseline nor can we do a serious estimate. Based on earnings SE is on a loosing trend but has still a lot of cash/cashflow to maintain business for a couple of years. But even with the earnings report we cant talk about FF14 isolated.

But regarding the topic is "FF14 dying" this does not mean "money" because even the trash of tash makes money (remember money does not equal good - cocain anyone?) but is the game down the drain aka shit (quality).
FF14 has a lot of bad spots now that needs fixing but this game will make money even if they go full kupo-nuts on the mogstation and pay to win garbage. In that time it will earn money, sure less and less but it will do until shout down.

To make it short, the assumption was faulty, the premise was wrong and the data provided are the answer to a topic almost unrelated to the question itself. As i said the game is far from actual dying but in good spot or okay ? I dont think so.

going to you last point. I think a lot of people are saying the same thing that the quality of the game is not the best right now. I mean you can log in and see people walking around and it not a ghost town