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    Y'all are dogging on bro for being excited and encouraging others about PvP by suggesting alternatives to the already dire state of the gamemode...
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  2. #12
    Player Mawlzy's Avatar
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    Quote Originally Posted by JuneBuggy View Post
    Y'all are dogging on bro for being excited and encouraging others about PvP by suggesting alternatives to the already dire state of the gamemode...
    "bro" is gonna get push-back if he waltzes in here telling people how PvP should be played, particularly given the company he keeps.
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  3. #13
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    Karasu Suki
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    Quote Originally Posted by JuneBuggy View Post
    Y'all are dogging on bro for being excited and encouraging others about PvP by suggesting alternatives to the already dire state of the gamemode...
    the game should be enjoyable and fun for the vast majority of players, not only for his club of friends and acquaintances on discord that organize private matches.
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    Gidson Brand
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    Quote Originally Posted by AristocraticCorgi View Post
    the game should be enjoyable and fun for the vast majority of players, not only for his club of friends and acquaintances on discord that organize private matches.
    I'm just telling you how I find the game most fun, and giving you an open invitation to that fun.
    There's nothing wrong with people organizing to get the most out of a game.
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    I do pvp stuff -- twitch.tv/gidsonBrand

  5. #15
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    Quote Originally Posted by AristocraticCorgi View Post
    the game should be enjoyable and fun for the vast majority of players, not only for his club of friends and acquaintances on discord that organize private matches.
    He never suggested the game should be played a certain way and isn't holding anyone at gunpoint to join. He was just stating some things he noticed and that others might enjoy it. This is just an invitation to foster a community for like-minded people who enjoy PvP.
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  6. #16
    Player Mawlzy's Avatar
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    Quote Originally Posted by JuneBuggy View Post
    He never suggested the game should be played a certain way and isn't holding anyone at gunpoint to join. He was just stating some things he noticed and that others might enjoy it. This is just an invitation to foster a community for like-minded people who enjoy PvP.
    That's fair. Like-minded griefers and padders, please follow Mr. Brand out the door.
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  7. #17
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    Quote Originally Posted by Mawlzy View Post
    That's fair. Like-minded griefers and padders, please follow Mr. Brand out the door.
    Hey man, I'm not going anywhere. I'll put as much effort into being positive about pvp as you will at hating my friends.
    Like, legit, you're so negative about this you're turning me into an anime protag lol I don't get it
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    I do pvp stuff -- twitch.tv/gidsonBrand

  8. #18
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    J'thaldi Rhid
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    Mateus
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    I'm not sure why OP is getting such hate. While I personally don't care for custom matches, I think the effort by OP is positive.

    A beginner-friendly custom match environment with people to guide the beginners would likely be a great first experience with small-scale PvP for them, rather than tossing them into ranked matches where they can just die twice and lose within 2 minutes, all while learning nothing at all.
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  9. #19
    Player Mawlzy's Avatar
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    Quote Originally Posted by gidsonBrand View Post
    Hey man, I'm not going anywhere. I'll put as much effort into being positive about pvp as you will at hating my friends.
    Like, legit, you're so negative about this you're turning me into an anime protag lol I don't get it
    Maybe if you were aware of what I've had to deal with you'd understand my perspective better. It's kind of a shame we're not on the same DC. Every superhero needs a nemesis.
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  10. #20
    Player Mawlzy's Avatar
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    Quote Originally Posted by Aravell View Post
    I'm not sure why OP is getting such hate. While I personally don't care for custom matches, I think the effort by OP is positive.

    A beginner-friendly custom match environment with people to guide the beginners would likely be a great first experience with small-scale PvP for them, rather than tossing them into ranked matches where they can just die twice and lose within 2 minutes, all while learning nothing at all.
    Ranked matches isn't where beginners go, is it?

    But I see your point and agree that there are positives to custom matches. I wish we could have them in FL.

    The issue, I believe, is that many of us are a little tired of the attitudes that elements of Discord bring to PvP. They have the power to do so much good, and maybe these custom matches might fall into that category. But when one witnesses the contempt many in this Discord "community" hold for players who are not part of their clique, conflict follows. When that is compounded by abusive vote-kicking, harassment of dissenters and stalking of their FC friends who do not even play PvP, and being followed and harassed on Discord servers devoted to different games, yeah, claws get sharpened.
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