Custom CC Games are way better than Ranked

[Calmlamity]

My problem with communities is that I never know which one is sanitized and which one isn't. Revival for instance tries to be welcoming which I appreciate, while fostering lightly moderated channels (opt-in) for DC centric post game malding and toxicity. Before this it was just public DC specific channels where moderation was supposed to happened, but never did. This sends very mixed signals to me.

It's a change of signals. If you've been around Revival for a bit, you know that ranked conversation used to dominate the DC channels, and it made for a pretty uncomfortable environment for the people who were trying to do anything else. It was also uncomfortable even for some of the people who were doing ranked, heard from multiple consistent t-100s, who just didn't want to deal with criticism against their will if they made a mistake.

So the opt-in section is meant to funnel that ranked PvP intensity, give them a place to exist within the server, while keeping the rest of it cozy to the people who don't care to be a part of it. The sweaties have their home, and it unlocks the rest of the server for the frontliners, and the rival wingers, and the duelers, and the people looking for mentoring, and the people who wanna share cat memes, who don't want that bleeding into their preferred spaces. It's not that the sweaties have their opt-in section and the entire rest of the server. They have that one space, and the rest of the server is cleaner for it. And while we're still getting comfy with how to moderate it, it is still moderated.
There's an expectation of personal respect that everyone who opted in agreed to, and we've pushed back against people who have gone too far.

There are a lot of volunteers who put in a ton of time and effort to make Revival a cozy place, and I absolutely mean this when I say that, if there's something you'd like to see different, don't hesitate to let us know. Open a ticket or put it in the suggestions channel. And if you don't want a the entire admin and mod team to see who you are but you have something on your mind? Feel free to DM me. They're always open, and I try my best to be a teddy bear. I've put years of effort into trying to make Revival a better place, and the majority of the improvements we've made have come from people who don't have any staff roles.

[Calmlamity]

Also these are the same forums where PLD Onsal cover cheese was reported as a bug within 2 weeks of being released, and quickly moved to "Working as Intended". It took 6 months for them to finally get it right. This is unfortunately, but absolutely, not a place to be taken seriously when it comes to developer/player contact.

[Mawlzy]

Also these are the same forums where PLD Onsal cover cheese was reported as a bug within 2 weeks of being released, and quickly moved to "Working as Intended". It took 6 months for them to finally get it right. This is unfortunately, but absolutely, not a place to be taken seriously when it comes to developer/player contact.

I sadly have to agree with you. And the corollary is I'm finding it impossible to take PvP seriously given SQEX's approach to it and the fact the feedback we provide has zero impact.

[gidsonBrand]

And if you don't want a the entire admin and mod team to see who you are but you have something on your mind? Feel free to DM me. They're always open, and I try my best to be a teddy bear.

Yeah at least anecdotally, it's already helped a few of my friends come back to Revival. Tbh the ranked discussions were just a reality I had accepted, but yall basically added a smoking zone outside so the rest of us could enjoy our meal (read: memeing about roulette and Frontline).

But I'd like to open a ticket:
host another CC tournament please I wanna play in more pretty please with an axe on top

[Valence]

It's a change of signals. If you've been around Revival for a bit, you know that ranked conversation used to dominate the DC channels, and it made for a pretty uncomfortable environment for the people who were trying to do anything else. It was also uncomfortable even for some of the people who were doing ranked, heard from multiple consistent t-100s, who just didn't want to deal with criticism against their will if they made a mistake.

So the opt-in section is meant to funnel that ranked PvP intensity, give them a place to exist within the server, while keeping the rest of it cozy to the people who don't care to be a part of it. The sweaties have their home, and it unlocks the rest of the server for the frontliners, and the rival wingers, and the duelers, and the people looking for mentoring, and the people who wanna share cat memes, who don't want that bleeding into their preferred spaces. It's not that the sweaties have their opt-in section and the entire rest of the server. They have that one space, and the rest of the server is cleaner for it. And while we're still getting comfy with how to moderate it, it is still moderated.
There's an expectation of personal respect that everyone who opted in agreed to, and we've pushed back against people who have gone too far.

There are a lot of volunteers who put in a ton of time and effort to make Revival a cozy place, and I absolutely mean this when I say that, if there's something you'd like to see different, don't hesitate to let us know. Open a ticket or put it in the suggestions channel. And if you don't want a the entire admin and mod team to see who you are but you have something on your mind? Feel free to DM me. They're always open, and I try my best to be a teddy bear. I've put years of effort into trying to make Revival a better place, and the majority of the improvements we've made have come from people who don't have any staff roles.

Yes I was probably part of those ranked players that weren't exactly comfortable with it the previous DC channels. They do definitely look comfier now!

I do understand the idea to give them their own room, but I guess what I find sad is that a big part of the players I was expecting to interact with since I saw them in all of my diam/crystal games, were also the sweaties you're talking about. It's a bit sad that there is no way to have a comfy room of mature players able to talk casually about post game shenanigans. If anything it's not on the discord, but on the general fauna past certain ranks.

[gidsonBrand]

but on the general fauna past certain ranks.

I don't know why but calling them "fauna" is the funniest thing to me LOL

But that's more a side effect of putting the entire ranked pool into one DC, isn't it? Like with maybe 20 games going on at any given point, it's hard to know if the exact players in your game are in this one discord channel.

It'll be more likely to happen later in the season when ranked dies down, probably maybe hopefully.

[Mawlzy]

Sorry, overflow and I've forgotten the trick for avoiding the character limit...


I did find the LFG channel useful since it allowed me to avoid certain premades, and as mentioned above I met some people with whom I had productive discussions about FL jobs and strategy via DM. Ultimately I left because of the hostility and nastiness directed at the player base as a whole from a noisy subset of your members. I don't know if the stats from my server are representative, but there the vast majority of our members lurk. I suspect on Revival you have a significant population of such lurkers who are the "FL randos" that are constantly abused by some regular posters. You'll understand why I chuckled darkly when it was mentioned earlier in this thread that PvP Discord has cleaned its bed. That doesn't conform to my experience, even on a server that I genuinely respect. Others are far worse.

Anyway, I don't know if that is helpful at all, and I apologize to the OP for the derail, but hopefully you can take these observations as constructive, and not just assume it's Mawlzy going off again.

[gidsonBrand]

omg gary kettle
head of pvprimal and leader of the discord mafia hegemony

can u sign my portrait

[Valence]

I was mostly talking about my experience in Endwalker. Jury's still out on Dawntrail.