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    Sunie Dakwhil
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    Machinist Lv 100

    They forgot Ranged Physical is a role in the game

    They literally forgot. Not a single line about any changes in the jobguide 7.1 adjustment explanations.
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    Carighan Maconar
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    Paladin Lv 100
    "Ranged Physical"? You mean Gunbreaker, yes?!
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    Sililos Sanura
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    Sophia
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    Dancer Lv 100
    Phys ranged are always the "You will get nothing and like it" role too the devs lol. Dancer didnt even get to exist in Shadowbringers with Gunbreaker being smeared over every square inch of the game.

    Still i guess if were the "This is fine." role, We wont get any large, broken nerfs nobody asked for nor were needed etc. Silver linings etc.
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    Iedarus Meridus
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    Scholar Lv 100
    Melee is the new Phys Ranged. Look at how massive the boss hitboxes are.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Iedarus View Post
    Was this what Yoshi P wanted for people like me? Did he assume we were too foolish to take any semblance of complexity? How could such an allegedly open developer act so dismissive towards his own players? The flavor of the jobs I loved so much throughout the franchise were mere husks of themselves. What was once a magical world peeled away to reveal a sterile room of four walls. No imagination, no challenge, only accessibility for the sake of it. I didn't feel welcomed, I felt betrayed.
    I'll give healer a try up until level 100. If I do not like it, I'm off the role, entirely.

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    Carighan Maconar
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    I mean you could say the same about melee, tank and healer (caster sort-of have an excuse because at least they're somewhat meaningfully differentiated from each other, even if virtually nobody except Red Mage casts). The jobs are all highly sanded off, healers just spam their filler nuke while tanks passively keep aggro and resist most damage, too. As far as design goes, they might have remembered the jobs exist, but they sure forgot what role people would want to play.
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    Rui Aii
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    Summoner Lv 80
    is SMN a physical range job?
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    Quote Originally Posted by BabyYoda View Post
    is SMN a physical range job?
    For all practical purposes, yes. Since from a player perspective, "physical ranged" just means "near 100% mobility and also not a melee job". Though with the amount of ranged attacks on say Monks now and the amount of melee uptime from modern hitboxes, even that line is starting to blur significantly.

    But yeah from that perspective Summoner is def a PRanged job, and Black Mage and Pictomancer sometimes feel like they're starting to be one, too. At this rate it'll only be Red Mages that have any signficiant amount of actual casts left in their damage rotations in 1-2 expansions, everything else is all-instant-all-the-time. :P
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    Sunie Dakwhil
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    Quote Originally Posted by BabyYoda View Post
    is SMN a physical range job?
    No it's better, as it offers similar uptime and mobility, and way better and valuable party support in the form of healing and raises.
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    Serenaya Carrin
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    Quote Originally Posted by Valence View Post
    No it's better, as it offers similar uptime and mobility, and way better and valuable party support in the form of healing and raises.
    You have very little control over when that healing happens so I'm not sure about that being very valuable honestly.

    Anyway, didn't notice they just didn't include this. Phys-ranged in a nutshell. Get the feeling they all sigh heavily in unison whenever it comes to making any adjustment to them. Would explain why Tilana hasn't been changed yet.
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    Sunie Dakwhil
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    I'm sure that having that much party wide healing every minute removes most concerns about control to be honest.
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