Quote Originally Posted by Abriael View Post
It's the idea that will be implemented. Maybe it's time to give it up instead of just continuing to grind on the nostalgia for a concept that almost every developer scrapped, with reason.
No, it's the idea he's thinking of implementing. There's a big difference.



Because his idea is not an unreasonable timesink with absolutely zero positive effects. XP/SP death penalty is. Not only it doesn't add anything to the fun factor of the game (which is what counts), but actually detracts from it, triggering frustration in people that don't have tons of time to pour into the game and can take timesink in stride for the sake of defining themselvs "hardore"
HA! Now you've lost all credibility. "Not an unreasonable timesink with with absolutely zero positive effects"? What else do you call armor damage that will cost you gil or materials? His idea is just another timesink as well. It isn't "positive" reinforcement either. And the problem with his idea is that Gil is so worthless at the moment, it will not discourage death at all (which is the point for a death penalty). You don't have an argument here.


You must be reading very selectively. The people making "a lot of posts" are mostly people continuously arguing in favor of XP/SP death penalty that just seem not to be able to let go.
Again, now you're spouting nonsense. I could say the exact same thing about the people continuously arguing against SP penalty. Like I said, it's a pretty split issue. It's about 50/50 on the issue.


I linked it. Maybe you just ignored it. Besides, if you're so good at reading japanese I can't fathom how you managed to miss it since it's in the dev tracker AND in the most logical place to look for (battle systems forums), with the most logical title "about death penalty". Maybe you just looked into the general discussion forum, assuming that the Japanese are like us and just dump everything in the general discussion forum ignoring the specific ones we've been given?
Yeah, I found it... no thanks to you. I don't know where you linked it. And guess what? It's pretty split over there as well. The "majority" isn't against it... there are just as many in favor of SP penalty as against it. Quit making assumptions based on your own wants.


So people should be willing to budge because you say so? Sorry. Doesn't work like that.
No, people should be willing to discuss and compromise because it's what you do when you can't agree on something. I bet you were one of those kids that always had to get his way and cried when he couldn't, or cried when he had to share his toys. Nobody taught you the value of sharing and compromise.