Dawntrail character graphics update - opinions, requests and discussion megathread

[Drakulia]

I was told to post my opinions about the graphics update here as well.

As I said in the other post there are several reasons for me having noticed that my face is no longer my face but the major points for me right now is that her eyes are different and a bit milky. Not as bad as the characters that have lighter eyes but to me fully noticeable. Her face has a different shape, her scar is bigger and her mouth has also changed shape. On top of that the eyebrows makes her facial expressions totally different to what I am used to. I have therefor not been able to play dawntrail.

I just cannot look at her in cutscenes and see her as my friend for ten years and that to me is really sad. I know that you are doing your best to fix it and as I said before in the first post I have waited patiently for the issue to be resolved, but now that I heard that after this there won't be any major changes I must say I got worried hence the post.

To help with the differences and to show graphically how she looked before compared to now I have added screenshots of her. I hope that that will be of help to you in your work efforts.

How she looked before dawntrail

How she looks now

Showcase of horrible eyebrows

If you want to see my first post with more pictures it is linked here below.
https://forum.square-enix.com/ffxiv/...out-the-faces.

[Hatsuoki]

Why couldn't they have given us some examples of the fixes during the PLL...? Right now we still don't know if the fixes are going to go in the right direction.

[Khryseis_Astra]

Why couldn't they have given us some examples of the fixes during the PLL...? Right now we still don't know if the fixes are going to go in the right direction.

True, but we are getting another Fantasia at least… just crossing my fingers they’ll fix my Highlander!

[HawkeScream]

Why couldn't they have given us some examples of the fixes during the PLL...? Right now we still don't know if the fixes are going to go in the right direction.

Tbh I think that's exactly why they didn't. People who don't notice won't notice. No spotlight, less backlash.

[glitteringcosmos]

I was told to post my opinions about the graphics update here as well.

As I said in the other post there are several reasons for me having noticed that my face is no longer my face but the major points for me right now is that her eyes are different and a bit milky. Not as bad as the characters that have lighter eyes but to me fully noticeable. Her face has a different shape, her scar is bigger and her mouth has also changed shape. On top of that the eyebrows makes her facial expressions totally different to what I am used to. I have therefor not been able to play dawntrail.

I just cannot look at her in cutscenes and see her as my friend for ten years and that to me is really sad. I know that you are doing your best to fix it and as I said before in the first post I have waited patiently for the issue to be resolved, but now that I heard that after this there won't be any major changes I must say I got worried hence the post.

To help with the differences and to show graphically how she looked before compared to now I have added screenshots of her. I hope that that will be of help to you in your work efforts.

How she looked before dawntrail

How she looks now

Showcase of horrible eyebrows

If you want to see my first post with more pictures it is linked here below.
https://forum.square-enix.com/ffxiv/...out-the-faces.

the eyebrows are the ABSOLUTE WORST. And I've submitted a ticket about it (for m miqote face 4) and I've seen some others also submit tickets, but they all got pushed to "working as intended." It's laughably bad.

[Tahli]

the eyebrows are the ABSOLUTE WORST. And I've submitted a ticket about it (for m miqote face 4) and I've seen some others also submit tickets, but they all got pushed to "working as intended." It's laughably bad.

Face 2 F Miqos have it rough with the current eyebrows.
I at least had my report on it moved to Accepted Bugs, here. Hoping they get fixed in the coming update.

[glitteringcosmos]

Face 2 F Miqos have it rough with the current eyebrows.
I at least had my report on it moved to Accepted Bugs, here. Hoping they get fixed in the coming update.

Miqos in general they dropped the ball with the eyebrows (and many other things but for the sake of this particular line of convo, the eyebrows especially). Face 4 for the boys have the eyebrows literally on the underside of the brow bone, almost on their eyelids.







I wish they'd actually listen to us instead of writing off shoddy work as "spec." I'm with you--I really, really hope they fix it in future updates.

[Doopliss]

Tbh I think that's exactly why they didn't. People who don't notice won't notice. No spotlight, less backlash.

The more rational part of me does think you're definitely right.

Unfortunately my anxiety keeps making me go back and forth... At the same time I keep feeling like showing us literally nothing reeks of a lack of confidence and dishonesty. Also at the same time, though, since they're offering another Fantasia for this patch, I hope that means the changes to the faces that differed too drastically from their originals are significant.

I just wish they would have been more honest about things that definitely read as mistakes... Duskwight men missing their clan-specific face textures, and Hellsguard's most distinct feature being nigh invisible. I also really, really, really hope they adjusted female Highlander makeup. I still feel so scared because that issue is really niche and dependent on skintone, and while a lot of my characters' face changes are upsetting because they look too different, she feels outright embarrassing to play on because it's like she can't correctly apply the eyeliner that is literally baked into her face... Buh, I'm rambling.

[Argantaelle]

I feel very uneasy too; I'm scared that they won't return my main to me and also disfigure my alt beyond recognition. (My alt's face changed less than many other gender/race combinations, but I'm still frightened nonetheless.)

Let's hope for the best. Anyway, the long wait will be over in 12 days, for better or for worse.

[HawkeScream]

The more rational part of me does think you're definitely right.

Unfortunately my anxiety keeps making me go back and forth... At the same time I keep feeling like showing us literally nothing reeks of a lack of confidence and dishonesty. At the same time, though, since they're offering another Fantasia for this patch, I hope that means the changes to the faces that differed too drastically from their originals are significant.

I just wish they would have been more honest about things that definitely read as mistakes... Duskwight men missing their clan-specific face textures, and Hellsguard's most distinct feature being nigh invisible. I also really, really, really hope they adjusted female Highlander makeup. I still feel so scared because that issue is really niche and dependent on skintone, and while a lot of my characters' face changes are upsetting because they look too different, she feels outright embarrassing to play on because it's like she can't correctly apply the eyeliner that is literally baked into her face... Buh, I'm rambling.

Oh I absolutely agree with you. On one hand I'm a little glad because it minimizes the "your character changed get over it" people who don't care at all but like to flock in and try and drown us out, but I also think by not showing examples they're also minimizing backlash, or pre-backlash, from those of us who do care and are watching it very closely in case there's a major thing that doesn't get addressed (again).

It's not rambling to talk about your concerns about your characters, that's what we're all in here for! If we weren't all talking about it, nothing would be getting done at all. I really hope the details you're unhappy with get fixed and you can enjoy your characters again. I haven't even finished DT on my middie cuz I don't want to look at her in cutscenes the way she is at the moment so I feel you =[. I've been waiting for 7.1 since they announced more adjustments before I decide what to do. Anxious final stretch, wooooo!