Dawntrail character graphics update - opinions, requests and discussion megathread

[HawkeScream]

Why couldn't they have given us some examples of the fixes during the PLL...? Right now we still don't know if the fixes are going to go in the right direction.

Tbh I think that's exactly why they didn't. People who don't notice won't notice. No spotlight, less backlash.

[Doopliss]

Tbh I think that's exactly why they didn't. People who don't notice won't notice. No spotlight, less backlash.

The more rational part of me does think you're definitely right.

Unfortunately my anxiety keeps making me go back and forth... At the same time I keep feeling like showing us literally nothing reeks of a lack of confidence and dishonesty. Also at the same time, though, since they're offering another Fantasia for this patch, I hope that means the changes to the faces that differed too drastically from their originals are significant.

I just wish they would have been more honest about things that definitely read as mistakes... Duskwight men missing their clan-specific face textures, and Hellsguard's most distinct feature being nigh invisible. I also really, really, really hope they adjusted female Highlander makeup. I still feel so scared because that issue is really niche and dependent on skintone, and while a lot of my characters' face changes are upsetting because they look too different, she feels outright embarrassing to play on because it's like she can't correctly apply the eyeliner that is literally baked into her face... Buh, I'm rambling.

[HawkeScream]

The more rational part of me does think you're definitely right.

Unfortunately my anxiety keeps making me go back and forth... At the same time I keep feeling like showing us literally nothing reeks of a lack of confidence and dishonesty. At the same time, though, since they're offering another Fantasia for this patch, I hope that means the changes to the faces that differed too drastically from their originals are significant.

I just wish they would have been more honest about things that definitely read as mistakes... Duskwight men missing their clan-specific face textures, and Hellsguard's most distinct feature being nigh invisible. I also really, really, really hope they adjusted female Highlander makeup. I still feel so scared because that issue is really niche and dependent on skintone, and while a lot of my characters' face changes are upsetting because they look too different, she feels outright embarrassing to play on because it's like she can't correctly apply the eyeliner that is literally baked into her face... Buh, I'm rambling.

Oh I absolutely agree with you. On one hand I'm a little glad because it minimizes the "your character changed get over it" people who don't care at all but like to flock in and try and drown us out, but I also think by not showing examples they're also minimizing backlash, or pre-backlash, from those of us who do care and are watching it very closely in case there's a major thing that doesn't get addressed (again).

It's not rambling to talk about your concerns about your characters, that's what we're all in here for! If we weren't all talking about it, nothing would be getting done at all. I really hope the details you're unhappy with get fixed and you can enjoy your characters again. I haven't even finished DT on my middie cuz I don't want to look at her in cutscenes the way she is at the moment so I feel you =[. I've been waiting for 7.1 since they announced more adjustments before I decide what to do. Anxious final stretch, wooooo!

[Astronis]

Oh I absolutely agree with you. On one hand I'm a little glad because it minimizes the "your character changed get over it" people who don't care at all but like to flock in and try and drown us out, but I also think by not showing examples they're also minimizing backlash, or pre-backlash, from those of us who do care and are watching it very closely in case there's a major thing that doesn't get addressed (again).

They probably are also not giving any previews so that people who like the previews don't get disappointed if what they saw in a preview isn't what they get live (or do get but looks different in the live environment than they expected). Probably wise of them to head it all off and let people see what happens live rather than fretting one way or the other for two weeks. Even if it doesn't help the current fretting much.

[HawkeScream]

They probably are also not giving any previews so that people who like the previews don't get disappointed if what they saw in a preview isn't what they get live (or do get but looks different in the live environment than they expected). Probably wise of them to head it all off and let people see what happens live rather than fretting one way or the other for two weeks. Even if it doesn't help the current fretting much.

That's a very good point too. Something from a crispy demo image in a controlled environment isn't necessarily going to translate well (good or bad, subjectively) to our screens.