Feedback for SQX: The game is healthy (enough) but Spriggan world/Chaos DC is dead

[Ardeth]

How would my solution still allow the problem to happen? The problem is people transferring to PUG, clearly.

If they have established statics poached from dead worlds, the obvious solution is to make the premade group play on the dead server. To incentivize playing on the dead server.

The issue is the dead server. I agree punishing people is bad, but if it's easy enough for them to come over from x to y to raid, then that makes the dead server less dead. I get what you mean as a premade. How can they affect it, but it does. People will see all the groups on x server and forsake y. It's been happening ever since DC travel came out. It's the reason this thread was made. To complain about SquareEnix's inability to fix it. And how so many servers have the population but refuse to raid at home.

[Gurgeh]

You certainly have my empathy, given I'm on Dynamis and it's much the same; Regularly dead queues and a usually empty world (as well as ridiculously high marketboard prices for most things). Before Dawntrail I just made it a point to DC hop to Aether, but with the current "congestion" keeping it almost constantly blocked for travel, I just go to Primal now, enough so that I've been debating for a while if I should just transfer there (or even Crystal) because it so often feels like I'm playing a single-player RPG when I'm on Maduin.

Find a friend there.
Get them to setup a CWLS for you for them to master.
Get them to go make you a leader.
Start building a network of a hand full of friends to chat with.
Then hop between DCs, compare the same place same time.
How long are queus for the same content? What kind of stuff are you getting in rouls.
Then once you've done your best to check, if you know your not happy DO move.
Please. Maybe talk to Aimee friends. They might be as fed up as you and move.
It's heart wrenching frankly. But it's just not our problem.

[Gurgeh]

OP here. But I've just un-subbed for the first time in four years. Moving DC the instances and queues were way more fun, but that in itself was kind of depressing. You can't replace friends. This is just lose/lose. Too many dropped balls. The camel's back is broken.

[sindriiisgaming]

I left spriggan years ago to move to light. Man i don't regret it. I never scramble for a pf because every week there's over 200 for savage reclears. Just server transfer and save urself the pain.

[Gurgeh]

I did but I'm heartbroken at the few friend's still logging in that I no longer get to see.
I'm not a savage player because I can't find a way in, and apparently you need to use ACT, or be willing to use other people's logs which just sucked all the pleasure out of even unreal for me.
I moved because even our rouls were dead. Nothing but Temple of Quarn, LoA, and Alexander.
So you can imagine my reaction to the current Moogle event.
So now I've got better rouls but no friends really.
It's not enough. We never wipe. There is no challenge. And now and then you have sit and watch a WAR solo one boss for 10 minutes.
Rouls are no longer an abuse of my time but they are still boring, especially without friends.
I've cleared the Extremes, but I'm not interested in 300 pulls (especially without friends) for 99 clears. So once and I'm done.
Savage is closed to me. I'm not interested in progging that on my own in PF for my first time, especially with ACT.
So we are done here I guess.

I guess this is it. To my personality type friends are never replaceable. It can be got over. With help. But the game isn't providing that help.
(Also, The CWLS limit is a joke. No doub't sphagetti code blah blah blah.)

[Lauwen]

I was on Ragnarok at the start of 2.0 - when Louisoix opened up, I server transferred, and for a couple of years things were fine - player number wise. I've returned after a few months break and I've been hopping between Chaos and Light. Chaos on a Saturday afternoon had 18 PF open, 11 of which were "club" adverts. I went over to light and there were near 100 PF's open, 80 being high end duty.

I've made the decision to transfer to Light in the next couple of weeks, as it's now becoming a chore to find anything worthwhile to do in the Chaos PF.

[Gurgeh]

I was on Ragnarok at the start of 2.0 - when Louisoix opened up, I server transferred, and for a couple of years things were fine - player number wise. I've returned after a few months break and I've been hopping between Chaos and Light. Chaos on a Saturday afternoon had 18 PF open, 11 of which were "club" adverts. I went over to light and there were near 100 PF's open, 80 being high end duty.

I've made the decision to transfer to Light in the next couple of weeks, as it's now becoming a chore to find anything worthwhile to do in the Chaos PF.

Luckily for us they are working hard on XIV's solo game though! (Its not intentional but it really is s slap in the face. They should have just done it quietly. Left it in those interminable Patchnotes [most of which should be interactively immersively discover-able in game instead, but aren't because they waste the adventurers guilds, and the quest log like so much of the UI is just poor])

Oh well. At least I'm not paying for this now.

Good luck making new friends Lauwen. It sounds like a good way to do it, when you are starting with a clean slate socially anyway.

[VoidsentStatus]

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Few things to work out kink wise with this suggestion:

1) all the ppl complaining about losing fc buffs and access to retainers will still complain
2) this allows you to force your way onto a given data center that's congested or it'd just be a combination of dynamis/crystal/primal. you could reject applying if its to a congested location, but then everyone hosting pf's is going to flood non-congested worlds just so people can accept the pf and that puts them away from retainers/fc house/buff usage while waiting in PF so problem 1 but the hoster gets added to the issue
3) still adds server stress which is one of the issues I see people forgetting about when they ask for Dynamis to be shifted into the main 3 NA DC's. They don't want to stay with 3 DC's handling the playerbase stress as the population grows over the years.

this one depend on what you meant by "then you have to wait the 50 minutes for that PF to fill, but then saying you don't travel last minute)
4) that lack of communication possible due to chat disabled would also mean that you don't know how long ppl plan to be available in said pf, and you also can't pre-discuss strategy or other matters before the party is filled.

5) From what I'm aware of the process from what others said over the years, the core issue is how they handle character data to begin with. DC Travel isn't actually a movement of your character data, but rather a cloning of it. You need that person's character data on a different server to interact inside of that server fundamentally. Your original data is likely just hidden/inaccessible and becomes updated when returning home. The "this place is taken" section of your idea would need to relay duty unlock, job played as, item level, blacklist status, before even deciding if that place could be taken. The PF itself in text data could be duplicated and sent over likely, but that doesn't loophole needing 2 sets of character data interacting with each other before you're able to join.

6) The question also exists of what does "this place is taken" mean exactly? If it locks that slot in the raid up until I arrive, does that mean that Square Enix is now, not only going to transfer my character, but automatically force me to log in with no cancel option? What happens during expansion release when login queue's are 500-1000+? Could I alternate characters/accounts and troll someone and lock up their 8th slot permanently because they're stuck on waiting for me? What happens if I close the client during the login process? Square Enix said they save your spot in the queue for certain errrors so I would assume if I was crashed or there was some server instability, my spot in the PF wouldn't be at risk would it? Do I just get to play RNG with the PF Host's patience and there's no way for them to blacklist me because my character data is never fully in the party?

[Underscore]

Chaos PF is dead, but Spriggan is fine.

[Gurgeh]

1) all the ppl complaining about losing fc buffs and access to retainers will still complain

Yes. And some will still find its not enough and dessert their server to transfer. But its better that the nothing we've got. For some it will be enough to stay and that's all that matter.s Mathematically it's likely to mean just 5:5 disadvantaged Chaos:Light, rather than the horrifically unfair 10:0 Chaos:Light we have now, but that's just human fairness.

2) this allows you to force your way onto a given data center that's congested... ...then everyone hosting pf's is going to flood non-congested worlds... the pf and that puts them away from retainers/fc house/buff..

Yes. Although 'hard' congestion limits will still hold. I'd suggest that PF's must be forced to be cross DC or all this is a waste of time.
Congested DC's frankly... they should block new PFs being put up. Tough titty you are going to have to travel to put your PF up because the server is busy and you need to accept travellers. Yes you are goign to loose your retainers, just like poor Chaos users have now.
But its still better than what we have and again that's all that matters. Not if your the privileged 50% on light, but its so much better if you are the decimated 50% on Chaos. (We know its not 50:50 anymore though is it? But unless we do something, just turn off Chaos now, because its inevitable. Its RIPPING Chaos users off. Especially poor Chaos sprouts who've no idea the disaster that awaits them once they pop their head up from HW MSQ)