Response to Yoshi P: you can fix it.. but

[PercibelTheren]

The jobs are so dull and one dimensional because the players implicitly asked for it.

Which players? I keep seeing this argument yet I have never seen a significant amount of people asking for jobs to be braindead copies of each other. Are those players in the room with us right now?

Seriously, it is very hard to predict, whether the players will like a story or not. In DT, they tried something new and they failed.

Did they try something new? DT has another world-ending threat we have to deal with, one who is basically Emet Selch but with worse writing. It has a well-intentioned but inexperienced young person who wants to unite people, like Alphinaud was with his Crystal Braves, except Wuk Lamat's story is worse written and she faces no consequences for her foolish decisions. The theme of loss and having to let go has been something we've been getting beaten over the heads with since Shadowbringers.

I think a large part of people's anger is caused by the fact that the expansion was incredibly falsely advertised. The only one who got a vacation was Estinien and there was no rivalry between Scions.

[Larirawiel]

Which players?

These players, who start a whine thread and complain about it, that job X is unplayable now because job Y does 0.7675% more dps. SQEX listened to it and they removed almost all differences, which made the jobs somehow unique. And now, a job is only a skin over a role.

Did they try something new?

You are not the main character now. This is ... somehow new, yes.


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[PercibelTheren]

These players, who start a whine thread and complain about it, that job X is unplayable now because job Y does 0.7675% more dps. SQEX listened to it and they removed almost all differences, which made the jobs somehow unique. And now, a job is only a skin over a role.

So they made balancing easier on themselves by removing all the differences and somehow them being lazy is the players' fault. Got it.

[Larirawiel]

So they made balancing easier on themselves by removing all the differences and somehow them being lazy is the players' fault. Got it.

That's right. Because this is the only reliable way to get balancing right. Other games tried other approaches and failed.



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[MisterNublet]

That's right. Because this is the only reliable way to get balancing right. Other games tried other approaches and failed.



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Except they haven't even manage to do that successfully.

At this point, I'd take some imbalances for better job identity and gameplay.

[Larirawiel]

Except they haven't even manage to do that successfully.

At this point, I'd take some imbalances for better job identity and gameplay.

Yes. But the balance is good enough, that the players do not complain about it at a big scale. And the other problem is, FF14 focuses on solo- and small group content. And so you have to give every job everything, which fits in the role of the job. Ot you end up like WoW with tons of class stacking on certain encounters etc.




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