Dawntrail's MSQ story is a disaster and waste of potential. [full spoilers]

[Ronivan]

There is one point here no one tried to figure out, and one which would explain the reason why the MSQ had this massive change. Square Enix did used to hire Game Consultant Companies, like for sample, Sweet Baby Inc. and the main function of such hiring was to provide changes in the game, in a more light way to say it, DEI. The DEI funds which companies can get require it to fill some check boxes, and that's why they hire such consultancy companies, to help them fill these check boxes by making major changes in the game. So far I was unable to find more information regarding this on FFXIV so perhaps I should have a delicate look at the ending credits of Dawntrail to find information on this.

[Allegor]

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Something that really annoyed me not only about Zoraal ja's (lack of) development but mostly every character is that there's "show, don't tell" but it felt more like "meh, you've seen this trope before/fill in the gaps yourself" as if to save time to keep telling the story without needing to focus on the characters.

[PercibelTheren]

There is one point here no one tried to figure out, and one which would explain the reason why the MSQ had this massive change. Square Enix did used to hire Game Consultant Companies, like for sample, Sweet Baby Inc. and the main function of such hiring was to provide changes in the game, in a more light way to say it, DEI. The DEI funds which companies can get require it to fill some check boxes, and that's why they hire such consultancy companies, to help them fill these check boxes by making major changes in the game. So far I was unable to find more information regarding this on FFXIV so perhaps I should have a delicate look at the ending credits of Dawntrail to find information on this.

Another person who has no clue what consultancy companies do. I know it's hard to accept that your favourite game company has incompetent writers, but that's really what it is.

[Hallarem]

Congratulations everyone, we are getting more Wuk Lamat in the patch (notes) and the... hereditary ruler child of solution 9 / clone of Zoraal Ja and we get a glimpse into Zoraal Ja's ... past? Instead of glimpsing into his past in in the main MSQ while he was still relevant? Oooof.

Hard times ahead. (Honestly I don't mind the kid, but I hope they don't have him declared king without pushback. I sure as heck would protest if some foreign ruler savior or not would come in and be like "Hey guys, this is your new king and I'm his new guardian, Wuk Lamat awayyyyyyy")

[Striker44]

Congratulations everyone, we are getting more Wuk Lamat in the patch (notes) and the... hereditary ruler child of solution 9 / clone of Zoraal Ja and we get a glimpse into Zoraal Ja's ... past? Instead of glimpsing into his past in in the main MSQ while he was still relevant? Oooof.

Hard times ahead. (Honestly I don't mind the kid, but I hope they don't have him declared king without pushback. I sure as heck would protest if some foreign ruler savior or not would come in and be like "Hey guys, this is your new king and I'm his new guardian, Wuk Lamat awayyyyyyy")

I feel like the people of Alexandria/Solution Nine don't really have much of a choice in the matter. Alexandria effectively invaded Tural and put a portion of its population in a dome for 30 years, then lost a war against the Tuliyollal Empire. They're effectively a vassal state of Tuliyollal now.

[jameseoakes]

Congratulations everyone, we are getting more Wuk Lamat in the patch (notes) and the... hereditary ruler child of solution 9 / clone of Zoraal Ja and we get a glimpse into Zoraal Ja's ... past? Instead of glimpsing into his past in in the main MSQ while he was still relevant? Oooof.

Hard times ahead. (Honestly I don't mind the kid, but I hope they don't have him declared king without pushback. I sure as heck would protest if some foreign ruler savior or not would come in and be like "Hey guys, this is your new king and I'm his new guardian, Wuk Lamat awayyyyyyy")

The whole plot around Alexander having a child king forced on it whos a puppet of another monarch just seems so badly thought through, I just struggle to see how they won't get that to feel terrible

[Ronivan]

Another person who has no clue what consultancy companies do. I know it's hard to accept that your favourite game company has incompetent writers, but that's really what it is.

So you know what they do as to invalidate my statement by simple saying I do not know? I have provided information explaining one aspect of the work, while you have provided nothing beside your own opinion. Could you provide information that counter my argument I have provided in my post?

[Maltothoris]

Well if you want any more proof, it's a shame we didn't get post game stuff like this. https://x.com/aitaikimochi/status/1844949578027761836

Edit: Outfits already there but the scenarios would of been nice.

[Carin-Eri]

Well if you want any more proof, it's a shame we didn't get post game stuff like this. https://x.com/aitaikimochi/status/1844949578027761836

Edit: Outfits already there but the scenarios would of been nice.

I'd presume this was early in the development of Dawntrail, because as much as I would've liked that scenario I can't really see where it would've fit into what the MSQ became.

[Darko]

Congratulations everyone, we are getting more Wuk Lamat in the patch (notes)

Guess I'll do what I started doing halfway during MSQ, skip cutscenes and when I can't, mute sound and just not look at my screen until it's over.