Echoes of Vana'diel FFXI Alliance Raid

[Powercow]

I'm not really sure where you'd put bosses in a Jeuno raid. Is it going to be one big trash pull to Qufim?

Gobbiebag 24 Man (Extreme) let's goooo

Will there be a Rolanmart boss arena? I guess Ru'Lude is mostly a large square, you could put something there with some creative liberties.

They could just throw in the obligatory Kam'lanaut/Eald'narche fight in Ru'lude, though it'd feel kind of weird having such major characters be just... kinda there.

Wouldn't mind smacking Wolfgang around a bit though, the putz.

[Sotaris]

Cautiously optimistic. It's nice seeing Lower Jeuno in HD, they stuck to the orginal pretty closely.

Please don't screw it up.

[Sensui]

The throne room wasn't a barren circle or square in the screenshot, so it might be the hub.

Like, click the crystal and be transported to some other arena? Maybe.

[Brixy]

Prishe narrows things down on what to expect since we were only shown a picture of Shadow Lord before. We had no idea which version of the shadowlord they planned on using (past shadowlord with armor, present weakened shadowlord, dynamis lord, etc...) Since we have seen Prishe, Lower Jeuno, and we know that Shadow Lord is involved to some extent I can see a couple of different setups they plan on going: They are setting up either sky or sea.

If they go the Rise of the Zilart route I fully expect to see Aldo and his sister Verena being the main focus of the story. Shadowlord may end up being the main boss of the first raid to progress the story since he was a pawn for Kam'lanaut and Eald'narche early in FFXI. Verena will then become the focus after that since she has the ability to channel the same power as the Shadowlord using the head of his fallen body. This will lead into fighting Kam'lanaut for the 2nd raid and him being betrayed by his brother in Delkfutt's Tower. Eald'narche will use Verena to open the gates to sky for the final raid where he will be the boss. I would expect the crystal warriors to show up in the final raid at some point.

Prishe makes me feel like they are going with Chains of Promathia but idk what they would go with for a 3 raid series. CoP has a LOT of things going on between Bahamut and his dragons, the emptiness, Zilart + tonberry lore, Whisper of the souls and opening the gates to paradise (sea), and Promathia himself to name a few lol. I'd love to go into the promyvion for a raid. Meet Diabolos and go to Dynamis to fight Dynamis Lord for another raid. Then end with a Promathia battle for the final raid. That feels like a ton of setup that doesn't really flow for only 3 raids though lol.

[Sotaris]

Prishe narrows things down on what to expect since we were only shown a picture of Shadow Lord before. We had no idea which version of the shadowlord they planned on using (past shadowlord with armor, present weakened shadowlord, dynamis lord, etc...) Since we have seen Prishe, Lower Jeuno, and we know that Shadow Lord is involved to some extent I can see a couple of different setups they plan on going: They are setting up either sky or sea.

If they go the Rise of the Zilart route I fully expect to see Aldo and his sister Verena being the main focus of the story. Shadowlord may end up being the main boss of the first raid to progress the story since he was a pawn for Kam'lanaut and Eald'narche early in FFXI. Verena will then become the focus after that since she has the ability to channel the same power as the Shadowlord using the head of his fallen body. This will lead into fighting Kam'lanaut for the 2nd raid and him being betrayed by his brother in Delkfutt's Tower. Eald'narche will use Verena to open the gates to sky for the final raid where he will be the boss. I would expect the crystal warriors to show up in the final raid at some point.

Prishe makes me feel like they are going with Chains of Promathia but idk what they would go with for a 3 raid series. CoP has a LOT of things going on between Bahamut and his dragons, the emptiness, Zilart + tonberry lore, Whisper of the souls and opening the gates to paradise (sea), and Promathia himself to name a few lol. I'd love to go into the promyvion for a raid. Meet Diabolos and go to Dynamis to fight Dynamis Lord for another raid. Then end with a Promathia battle for the final raid. That feels like a ton of setup that doesn't really flow for only 3 raids though lol.

Seems reasonable to me. I could see CoP and Promathia being the big bad in the 3rd raid. If it's only going to focus on Rise and Chains, there is a lot of possible bosses to pull from.

[Vyrerus]

Prishe narrows things down

If they're going for any angle, it's probably gonna be some sorta hamfisted Dynamis scenario, since Prishe and the Shadowlord are linked together tangentially through Dynamis.

They're also referring to the areas as walks, which calls to mind Walk of Echoes.

It's probably just going to some sort of memory lane type thing where we're pressing towards someone's soul or mind locked behind a bevy of memorable baddies.

It likely won't make a lotta sense in relation to how FFXI's stories actually played out. Those stories are far too long and deep for a 24 man to tackle any of them with any cognizance.

I sorta expect to move through areas and then the entire landscape/area to change after each boss.

[AnimaAnimus]

Maybe it's due to my faith in SE being at an all time low, but I have a feeling everyone is reading way too much into things and they will just use a bunch of characters that xi vets will know and things that look cool for those who have never played xi and call it a day. This entire game is built around fan service and they never stick too close to what they are referencing. And I just don't think therre are enough XI vets or devs left in the company or frankly any writers compentent enough to do the amazing stories from Vana'diel any justice whatsoever.

[Fawkes]

The throne room wasn't a barren circle or square in the screenshot, so it might be the hub.

We only really see the stairs leading up to the coffin in the screenshot, the arena where you fight the Shadow Lord is at the bottom of the stairs

[Vyrerus]

The most fun fact about Shadowlord is that in his transition cutscene to phase 2, on the PS2 which the game was originally coded and engine built for, he has dark purple flames coat him in that black. It's an effect they could never get the PC port to faithfully recreate, so no player that played on PC only their whole life has ever seen it in game.

[SeriousPan]

I'm so happy they chose Prishe, she's such an amazing character and one of my favourites from XI. I imagine this will be a version that comes from Eorzea and not a universal traveller like Shantotto was in the crossover. If they make her someone from a shard that'll be interesting too I suppose. Exciting either way, this is as close to FFXI HD as I'll get in my lifetime. lol