Yoshii P wants to know why people are leaving

[IvoryHawk]

I went back to a F2P game again, too, paying only what I did for FF14 sub and retainers.

Lol I've gone back to Runescape, and it's just had it's own Dawntrail tier expansion in terms of setting, tons of content and it's being patched almost weekly with new QOL, and a valigarmanda looking boss coming wednesday for my whole "FC" to participate in, like you said about the polish and quality of the models not being great but there's content/lasting power and me and my static members are all having fun playing a game that has constant content together, we had fun and cleared M4S then basically all quit.

I also tried FF16 and it's just so depressing how everyone is voiced, it feels so much more "alive" i guess, meanwhile dawntrails start feels like it's had the least amount of voice acting of all the expansions thus far, ofcourse it's not new and we're never going to get a fully voiced FFXIV, but I understand now why people are wondering about the budget and money we're putting into XIV, and where it's actually going, I believe Yoshida and CBU3 are working on something else currently, because Koji fox had zero input on dawntrail if you check his IMDB, yoshida already said he's "done with dark fantasy" so i imagine in the next year or so we'll get the announcement of FF17 directed by him.

[Schizoid]

I have for 2 months now lost every lottery trying to aquire housing in the game. This is one of the things I enjoyed about the game when I played it before. I am a returning player from nearly a decade ago and I come back to find out housing looks like its all but abandoned and what is left is decided by a lottery system.

How about having enough to sustain the player base and stop with this lottery system. This is going to eventually lead to me quitting again. Also I agree with what was said at the start of all this post. The game is too dang easy now. Same pitiful grinds, looking like less and less effort is being put in to the stories and the characters(poor plots and bad acting)

Anyways, sure hope some of this changes, but as a individual the housing thing really has me becoming less and less interested now.

[Avoidy]

Drip fed content schedules on par with an actual f2p mmo. Story that's like 30% (badly) voiced and mostly involves running around clicking npcs to talk to them. Normal raids for casuals that boil down to 4 pretty fun fights but crafted gear came out a week later and made it so nobody cared about running anything but the 4th one once a week unless you're a brokeboi who's seriously in this for timegated gear that you can't even overmeld. Savage raids for hardcore players that also amounts to just running it once a week and then logging off until next Tuesday. Market's in shambles; crafters compete with bots in a race to the bottom. Two new dps jobs mean queue times are even more cooked than before, unless you're a healer which, lmao. If you're not a healer, you basically can't log in and just play anything without sitting in queue for 10 minutes first. Viera/hroth hats still lost in the wind. 2 minute meta still a thing, so every dps job still feels like endwalker. Healing is still the boring af role people pick begrudgingly to help their friends or speed a queue along. Ten new levels added, so now getting synced down feels even worse; nearly everything below 70 feels like hot garbage because so many critical features of the job are backloaded to the later levels. Most things at 70 feel like hot garbage. Even at 100, most jobs feel the same as they did in EW but with an extra button to press during the burst or something trivial like how smn gets a new looking bahamut. Tanks doubled down on the ridiculous sustain in casual content that hits like a noodle anyway, leading to so many instances of "your healer died because he was new, you (dps) died to unavoidable damage afterwards, and now you get to sit here while the warrior too dumb to nascent flash/shakeitoff his teammates but not dumb enough to die on his ezmode job slowly solos the boss from 80% only to die at .3%" moments. Get in and play only to get kicked by the ddos boogeyman and when you try to relog the game hits you with a 90002 error and boots you to your desktop. PvP in a game where server ticks mean you can't actually "react" to anything and you will literally watch yourself guard against something and die anyway because it "already went through on their end." Housing with so many limitations that most decorators just give up and cheat their designs into the game. Promised housing upgrades that have no roadmap on when they'll arrive. 15 a month btw in a time where people are losing their jobs left and right, everything's more expensive, and consumer spending is falling off a cliff as a result. "Why don't people want to sub to a game with nothing to do???" Gee, I wonder.

I have for 2 months now lost every lottery trying to aquire housing in the game. This is one of the things I enjoyed about the game when I played it before. [...] Anyways, sure hope some of this changes, but as a individual the housing thing really has me becoming less and less interested now.

Honestly bro, quit while you're ahead. Once you get a house, you'll feel compelled to keep subbing to keep it even though there is nothing to do right now and the game's got connectivity issues out the ass that make it hard to enjoy even basic things without getting kicked back to the menu screen. Get an apartment. Decorate your island sanctuary. Don't chain yourself to this game with a house. Telling you what I wish I'd done, because right now I'm sat here with an FC house full of FC rooms and it's all decorated and pimped out and the idea of blowing it all up kinda kills me but also this game is ass right now.

[Teno]

I've been playing TWW recently, and damn is blizz on the right track with their development updates,. They try out so many more new things even if not everything ends up staying. It's refreshing to see. FFXIV is the EXACT same thing, patch after patch, with a different coat of paint, and on all levels. The biggest insult being gameplay this expansion. See healers, summoner, etc...

[Rehayem]

I've been struggling to get back into the game after my holidays back in August. I had plans to clear the tier, even try ultimates but I realize that there isn't really much to do. There's no gameplay loop unless people count daily roulettes as such. Not sure, I just don't log in as often anymore, so I will be pausing my sub for a good while. I don't think 7.1 content will bring anything new to the table, and neither will 8.0. There's just this sheer disappointment in me that I felt the same when Aion started collapsing on itself.

[MonsutaMan]

Go play other games......

.......Wait, why is everyone leaving?

Granted, I have yet to beat all the expansions......while playing, I always felt Yoshi doesn't quite understand MMOs. Maybe it is just me.........

[TDawnstar]

Go play other games......

.......Wait, why is everyone leaving?

That pretty much sums it up. SE wants you to play other games (but THEIR games, of course) but then it pulls a surprise pikachu when people go play other games but not theirs XD
Also, "go take a break and play something else" is a bad approach to MMOs, and I'm willing to die on that hill XD

[AngelicDeath]

Personally for me is just ddos I still play a bunch but the dddos is killing it for me right now

[RinaB]

We all have our own reasons for sticking around but I feel at this point after reading so many threads and so much feedback over the years it's sad to se we are almost playing for the hope things will change. I hate the tome system for one. 2 weeks for a chest piece I have to augment later? For a game that wants people playing all the jobs it's certainly not easy if you don't want to be an undergeared pile of waste. Even the poetics are trash, msq is still the best way to get them? Come on...why can't I just buy them with Gil or have them at the vendors for free since it's outdated gear anyways? the issue is they will not risk anything. I literally just made a thread about awful tanks at 81 have been so even if their goal was to cater to new players, their Game isn't making them better or good at all. Honestly I don't have every job at 100 and I main DRK and have for a long long time. I'm currently thinking about switching to sage but then I think of 100 gearing and it makes me discouraged. They have so many outdated stupid things in this game designed to waste your time it's ridiculous.

Quests suck. I'm really tired of handing in a quest and getting a cutscene with worthless dialogue. It just sucks. When my quest is done let me hand it in and move on. People would be happier to pay for a sub if jobs were addressed, of content was released faster and gearing was easier because of said faster content releases. Jobs being addressed is a big one and even though I don't agree with everyone's opinions on how drk should be changed, I def understand there is a problem. But issues and complaints go ignored for years and years and years it's absolutely ridiculous.

[lolnotacat]

That pretty much sums it up. SE wants you to play other games (but THEIR games, of course) but then it pulls a surprise pikachu when people go play other games but not theirs XD
Also, "go take a break and play something else" is a bad approach to MMOs, and I'm willing to die on that hill XD

I think it's a good approach for MMOs where nearly all content is available and stays relevant. GW2 for example, if you buy the content, there's very little that's not relevant because of people leveling alts and all content providing rewards and somewhat of a challenge. I could hop on right now and play content from Heart of Thorns, which came out in 2015 and still find people doing it, despite the fact a new expac dropped last month. Someone could leave GW2 for years and come back, catch up, and have a relatively similar experience (not everything will be the same because new content, nerfs, buffs, etc...) as players who experienced it when it was new.

FFXIV on the other hand makes its content obsolete during the same patch cycle because of ilvl inflation, the dumbing down of midcore and below difficulty, constant buffs, and the fact that most content just doesn't have legs.