JP: Yoshi P should step down, FF14 is a sinking ship, in response to interview

[BabyYoda]

Naruto is more interesting than Lamati it is disingenuous to compare them

[SongOfTheWind]

Saying DT writing is for kids is an insult to kids.

[Alchemii]

Saying DT writing is for kids is an insult to kids.

Even then, you can't really say "It's for kids" because in order to get that far in you have to get through HW, ShB, and EW. With HW having multiple on screen deaths and sufferings and Haurchefant sacrificing himself and dying in your arms, ShB featuring at least one scene that was clearly meant to be a horror scene of someone transforming into a Sineater. And EW... EW featured a Military Leader clearly not using a Rubber Bullet on himself, once it was clear there was no winning the war everything had gone wrong for his nation. Then it follows up with people transforming into monsters which is some how less horrifying than it was in ShB.

[dies_irae]

The glimmer of hope we have is that, thanks to the CEOs idiotic mistake of trying to hard push NFTs and "other" very public failings, they can't really afford to have FFXIV die off now. It's too much of a money maker for them. So they'll probably try and course correct. Now what's important is who's doing the course correct, if it's Exec that's a problem as they pushed NFTs and clearly have no idea what the average person wants. If it's the (Anti-)"Ethics" Department that's always a problem, they most likely are the ones who called for SBI's involvement in some games, and are pushing DEI. Which is being proven to be a death kiss to games right now. So the best bet for everyone is to put it in the hands of Devs that actually care, and right now it's hard to say who that might be.

The recent YoshiP interviews have extinguished this glimmer of hope for me tbh. It just seems that he no longer cares at all about this game and it seems SC3/SE just takes FF14 being successful as granted. Do they really think the sunk cost fallacy will just keep the cash cow going while they remove all the talents that made this game great from their positions and have the interns / new hires feed us generic slop according to the established and streamlined "FF14 formula"?
Is this really the same YoshiP that cried in a LL apologizing that he had to delay EW release because of a minor issue in the msq he had to have fixed? I will for sure be watching the next LL but i have 0 expectations and expect it to be business as usual without addressing anything.

[Lydia77]

Even then, you can't really say "It's for kids" because in order to get that far in you have to get through HW, ShB, and EW. With HW having multiple on screen deaths and sufferings and Haurchefant sacrificing himself and dying in your arms, ShB featuring at least one scene that was clearly meant to be a horror scene of someone transforming into a Sineater. And EW... EW featured a Military Leader clearly not using a Rubber Bullet on himself, once it was clear there was no winning the war everything had gone wrong for his nation. Then it follows up with people transforming into monsters which is some how less horrifying than it was in ShB.

Then who is it for? And you can skip those expantions with shop item.
After all that we have rubber bullets, oh so dead parrots who are clearly not suffering and can make a festival. The Deadly Hurricane from that Simpsons army recruiting clip is nowhere to be seen and only works as plot device to break the ladder to the next part of a zone. Cheerful Naruto style protagonist, who unlike the 7th Hokage does not meet any hardships. The attack on a Tural that supposedly only killed 4 people. Disney princess cooperation on building a train... We can continue on and on. This is exactly our problem with writer: After all those serious and heartbreaking moments we arrive to THIS.
DisneyTrail in its fulest. Modern Disney too. Old one had so many dark moments as well. Now the worst thing that can happen with characters is a ruined taco or a rain at the wrong time.

[MrKyo]

This thread is based on a narrative that was pre-typed and predisposed to the square enix development team, by me, over a decade ago to warn the developers of what rival companies to do try and illicit responses.

This was a thread that was actually, initially, supposed to be posted shortly after the Shadowbringers launch.

I will not be checking for replies nor arguing with anyone. I sent this to the square enix chain of emails quite some time ago, I wonder if they ever received it.

To clarify for passers by: This is what 'reviews' are, in our modern era. FFXIV is the only MMORPG doing exceedingly well, most people are secretly not allowed to post on forums and feedback hubs because of ongoing activity in real life that sees you confronted with difficulties when doing so, read my signature and you'll probably lose a large amount of emotion from your head because of a specific term there - That's how bad technology has gone.

Regardless, let me explain Dawntrail to you:

It's a self-aware content based theme. It's literally meant to torment you and make fun of the process of fantasy games whilst being the practical end-all-be-all fantasy platform for MMORPG's. Have you noticed that every other game is just a runaround to lead you elsewhere or take your money and fly away? Kickstarter scams, failing 'trillionaire corps' and etc. It just doesn't make much sense. For instance the big B company - How can you release content that has any issue at all after making billions of dollars decades ago. It doesn't make sense, you're just not allowed to think about it.

Everything in Dawntrail is hilarious. It's because of conduct that the team witnessed regarding people of intellectual capacity within the (mostly) North American communities. They do watch and analyze that information, why wouldn't you?

Most of you don't get it. It's incredibly obvious and you can tell by the tone and features of this expansion that it's literally making lighthearted fun of just how bad the real world is, through the fantasy universes boundaries.

It's also making fun of a lack of intellectualism throughout the modern world in comparison to technology: There's a presentation of technology of an ancient iteration that is immediately resulting of hilarious conundrum in a world were we just used a super-tech to achieve boundary breaking revelations where it took us, to prevent spoilers.

Play the game if you're curious. If you get it and enjoy it, you get it and enjoy it.

If you're offended by what is presented you don't get it.

At the end of all of it this platform could very well be just another pit to put people but because this expansion is content-aware of it's surroundings outside of it's universe, I personally wonder if they're a part of that structure. It's unfortunate that it exists. It's not a tinfoil hat theory, and again, I am not checking nor monitoring for replies. It's the way this failure of modern communications era exists as. - The fact that there's a post that follows a narrative of {ORIGINATING LOCALIZATION} wants {DIRECTORNAME} to step down!! {CONTENTNAME} is {NEGATIVVE} for {THESE REASONS} is kind of laughable. Do you know anyone else in real life that plays these games? I don't. I don't know a single person. It's all nonsense, here. In Japan? Maybe real activity. Why not? I don't see anyone chatting, ever - however.

Because my signature isn't showing here, I'll post it manually!

Satan's Choice
Master Kinzu Tada
WAR // DRK // RDM // WHM // BLM // SAM

[Alchemii]

The recent YoshiP interviews have extinguished this glimmer of hope for me tbh. It just seems that he no longer cares at all about this game and it seems SC3/SE just takes FF14 being successful as granted. Do they really think the sunk cost fallacy will just keep the cash cow going while they remove all the talents that made this game great from their positions and have the interns / new hires feed us generic slop according to the established and streamlined "FF14 formula"?
Is this really the same YoshiP that cried in a LL apologizing that he had to delay EW release because of a minor issue in the msq he had to have fixed? I will for sure be watching the next LL but i have 0 expectations and expect it to be business as usual without addressing anything.

I'm not saying to had it over to Yoshi-P per say. Just to someone that might actually care enough to get it back on track. At this point we could speculate on who would be the best choice, but everyone we could think of would come with potential problems and unknown choices. If I had to choice, personally, I'd probably want them to hand it over to Yoji Fujito, the current Producer of FFXI, and Akihiko Matsui. Yoji has clearly done good with keeping FFXI going, idk if that'll relate to FFXIV but I could hope, and Akihiko has been working on FF games since 3, and while he was a Lead Battle Planner and Battle System Director for 1.0, he was also a Battle System Director for ARR and has been given Special Thanks for every expansion since except DT. Considering we need the combat system reevaluated and pulled back to a better state I think this would make the most sense for who to bring in to fix things.

Then who is it for? And you can skip those expantions with shop item.
After all that we have rubber bullets, oh so dead parrots who are clearly not suffering and can make a festival. The Deadly Hurricane from that Simpsons army recruiting clip is nowhere to be seen and only works as plot device to break the ladder to the next part of a zone. Cheerful Naruto style protagonist, who unlike the 7th Hokage does not meet any hardships. The attack on a Tural that supposedly only killed 4 people. Disney princess cooperation on building a train... We can continue on and on. This is exactly our problem with writer: After all those serious and heartbreaking moments we arrive to THIS.
DisneyTrail in its fulest. Modern Disney too. Old one had so many dark moments as well. Now the worst thing that can happen with characters is a ruined taco or a rain at the wrong time.

I don't think it's for anyone. Cash Shop items aren't an excuse to justify DT's childish story, because the actual expectation is that you'll play through all the previous stories before getting to DT and the skips would be for Alts.

[Zackneifein]

Saying DT writing is for kids is an insult to kids.

When I said "for kids", it was to say "what adult without imagination think kids want". And think that's what Dawntrail is, wanting to appeal to a younger audience and failing miserably because, well, most of the audience of FFXIV are adults, kids don't care for MMORPG with subscription and kids have better taste than they think.
It's the difference between something like Avatar the last airbender or Gravity Falls and some garbage that only want to sell toys.

[sharplysurreal]

When I said "for kids", it was to say "what adult without imagination think kids want". And think that's what Dawntrail is, wanting to appeal to a younger audience and failing miserably because, well, most of the audience of FFXIV are adults, kids don't care for MMORPG with subscription and kids have better taste than they think.
It's the difference between something like Avatar the last airbender or Gravity Falls and some garbage that only want to sell toys.

Right? When I was a kid I was playing Final Fantasy VII and I can assure you there were no rubber bullets or safe space anthropomorphic tigers in Final Fantasy VII.

[sylphlands]

Saying DT writing is for kids is an insult to kids.

Agreed - stories written for children still abide by the basic rules of storytelling, and having a child audience doesn't equate to the story being bad. Dawntrail doesn't follow any rules - its main character has no meaningful arc, the conflict is weak, there's no actual climax in the plot (there are multiple almost-climaxes, and they're all poorly done), and the stakes are simultaneously all over the place and yet somehow nonexistent. The tone is very juvenile and conflicts are resolved quickly, which I think is where the point of it feeling like a children's story comes from, but I've seen actual children's stories deliver a moral far more gracefully than DT did.